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to make a ground rules list for potty training?? to ask for ideas??

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lastnerve · 22/07/2012 21:16

I am going to start potty training, my ds is nearly 3 I have on and off been trying for years and uphill struggle is an understatement. IF you try and sit him on the potty he screams and any suggestion is met with no.

I have decided to try nappy less or 'big boy pants' underpants in the house first. going out will need a nappy on as he is nowhere near ready for that yet he does have SN with speech and hyperactivity so I think baby steps is best.

I'm 24 weeks pg and he's off for the summer so its a real 'now or never' sit. I am thinking because of the difficulties a consistent approach is important , so I was thinking like a list maybe to stick on the fridge.

like : Praise for usage of the potty.

: In the case of accidents , do not shout/ chastise as it will cause regression and mean everybody Else's hard works has gone out of the window.

I will think of a less pretentious way to word that lol,

Can anybody think of and good things to put on the list??.

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McHappyPants2012 · 22/07/2012 21:24

Lastnerve i would just leave the potty training until he is ready.

i know the frustration but he will get there not sure what he is into but my DN adores fireman sam and that the reason i linked this chart

www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Fireman-Sam-Potty-Training-Reward-Chart-LARGE-A3-/270935071843?pt=UK_Baby_Potty_Training&hash=item3f14fd1c63

McHappyPants2012 · 22/07/2012 21:27

www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Bright-Bots-Washable-Potty-Training-Pull-Up-Pants-4pk-Large-Pale-Blue-New-/261063979194?pt=UK_Baby_Potty_Training&hash=item3cc8a030ba

i also got these for car trips ect ( there are other colours avaliable)

glenthebattleostrich · 22/07/2012 21:27

Get a copy of Pirate Pete's Potty Training, we used the girls version with DD and she picked it up really quick. It's a cute story and after a week of reading it 6 times a fooking day DD started to ask for big girl pants and to use potty not nappies.

Relax, you are going to get wee and poo on the floor. Live with it, accept it and go with the flow.

Give it time, some kids pick it up quicker than others.

Have you tried a reward chart bribery? A friends little girl wouldn't poo on the toilet and had to be bribed with marshmallows

glenthebattleostrich · 22/07/2012 21:28

Sorry, forgot the link

www.amazon.co.uk/Pirate-Petes-Potty-Ladybird-training/dp/1409302202

Nanny0gg · 22/07/2012 21:28

Reward chart. Gets a sticker for every potty use. So many stickers and he gets a small present (my DGC liked cars so that was easy).

But if he is really resisting then it's not worth the battle.

lastnerve · 22/07/2012 21:38

Argh its hard sometimes he will ask for the potty then go and hide and wee in the floor :/ sigh
A chart/bribery I think will be good.
He has pirate pete potty book, I've read it to him loads he just likes pressing the button and looking at the pics.

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noblegiraffe · 23/07/2012 00:19

When my DS had his first success on the potty we made a huge fuss and phoned his grandma to tell him what a big boy he was. We also had a song that we sang every time he went on the potty which he seemed to like more than bribery (although we gave chocolate too he wasn't that bothered).

If he weed on the floor we'd say 'oh dear, where is wee meant to go' and he'd say 'in the potty'.

Anyway, seemed to work really well, especially the song!

redwhiteandblueeyedsusan · 23/07/2012 00:29

wait til he is ready to sit on the potty. ds was not interested for ages... then got it instantly. I had no hassle from him, though plenty from nursery. doctors and consultants all seemed to think he was still in the normal range to be still training at 3.5+ he does have toddler diarrhoea though, so messages are harder to feel.

lastnerve · 23/07/2012 11:25

He's an awkward monkey last week sat on the potty and did a wee for his favourite relative while babysitting ,

us? its mean with 'NOOOOOOO' sigh

I suppose I wanted to get the ball rolling, he will sit on the potty, with his nappy on and eat his dinner, actually use it properly ? no way.

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BeautifulBlondePineapple · 23/07/2012 11:58

How about you give praise for keeping his pants dry not for producing something on the potty? It's a subtle difference, but it takes the drama & pressure off the potty.

Check his pants every 10 minutes and give loads of praise (and/or chocolate buttons!) if they are dry.

I used this book - it's a bit old fashioned & I tailored it a bit to work for us, but the idea of using a doll to show your DS what to do might help:

www.amazon.co.uk/Toilet-Training-Less-Than-Day/dp/0671693808/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1343040794&sr=8-1

lastnerve · 24/07/2012 09:46

thats a good idea

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DoesItComeInBlack · 24/07/2012 09:56

I am currently on potty training day 4, so I am talking from a place of sympathy and understanding LOL.
This is what I did.
Pick a day and stick to it- no more nappies during the day at all. days 1 and 2 bare arsed, be calm about accidents then sit him on the loo/ potty and say this is where wees and poos go. Reward success with a sticker and a malteser ( would have been choc drop but I ws given a box of maltesers and I'm on a diet). Have loads of pants, socks, vests j cloths and dettox so clearing up accidents isnt a problem. Day 3 and 4 stick on undies but no shorts / pants. keep with same programme. Day 5 and 6 trousers.
We have moved quicker that expected and have added a skirt and had knickers on day 2. I've been peed on once, and had poo on the bedroom floor and went upstairs for wees and phantom wees 31 times yesterday, stay calm.
He will do it. BTW I bought this reviews.asda.com/1440-en_gb/002675185/babyway-step-toilet-trainer-reviews/reviews.htm and she loves it and much prefers it to a potty.

Good luck, stay calm. You will be tied to the house for a few days but it's so worth it.

thegreylady · 24/07/2012 10:02

We had a set of knights on horses. For a wee he got the horse and for a poo he got the knight. He loves Mike the Knight on TV so that worked well ( healthier than chocolate too).

PenelopePipPop · 24/07/2012 10:56

I think if you get in to the mindset of 'Now or never' the answer will be never (well not really - obviously he will be toilet trained at some point, but maybe this summer will not be his time which is fine because he is only just 3 and has lots of time).

Even my most relaxed parenting friends have tied themselves in knots about toilet-training. It is hugely stressful, and small children are enormously sensitive to how their parents feel so inevitably they start to feel stressed too. Saying don't stress is stupid advice. But be aware that you have to take feel confident about potty training before your DS can feel confident.

Good things:

Sunny weather means more time outside where accidents are less of a problem, fewer clothes to wash and he will probably drink more so his wee won't smell too bad!

He has done the odd wee on the potty. So that is something to build on.

You are taking a positive approach and praising him lots already.

He is still willing to wear nappies (my DD wasn't - and we had an awkward few days when she wasn't willing to use the potty either, that took some dealing with).

It is all going to be fine...

CrunchyFrog · 24/07/2012 11:05

I would leave him.

DS1 has SN. An over-zealous toilet obsessed childminder did huge damage. He ended up back in nappies, having not had a dry and clean day in a year, at 3.6. He eventually came out of them at nearly 5, but is still not 100% reliable at 7.

Forcing any child is a bad idea, but more so if they. Are already dealing with other challenges.

MummyPigsFatTummy · 24/07/2012 11:27

We started with DD (2.8) on Friday so I feel your pain. We had half-heartedly tried a few times before but given up as she didn't seem to "get it" but, looking back I think we just gave up too early.

She has been reading Princess Polly's Potty (girls' version of Pirate Pete) for months now and loves it so she knows the theory, but despite there being plenty of potties in the house, she refused to sit on them most of the time.

Anyway, on Friday we didn't have one wee which actually started in the potty or toilet but every time she wet herself I sat her on the potty and if a bit more wee came out, she got loads of praise. I even let her run round in wet pants and shorts for a few minutes to see if she would find it unpleasant and ask to be changed but she didn't seem to mind. So by Friday night I did think it might not be going to work. Over the weekend though, things definitely took a turn for the better and she asked to go a few times and did some wees and poos on the potty for which she got high praise from me and Daddy and stickers (stickers are a big thing). By yesterday, when she spent the day with Daddy, she was pretty much asking every time and (fingers crossed it will carry on at nursery today).

We didn't stay in though. We took the potty to the park the first day (a very quiet one though) and on Sunday went to watch cricket (again sat in a very quiet corner). Just the thought of spending days in the house would have driven me mad and DD seems happy with al fresco pottying. It does mean I have a LOT of pants and shorts to wash but it's been worth it.

I honestly think if you are going to do it, it is worth going cold turkey and ditching nappies during the day completely. Try one or two days where you don't stray too far from the house and go to places outdoors where you could put a potty somewhere quiet-ish. Take LOADS of changes of pants and shorts, nappy bags for storing them, plenty of wipes and hand sanitiser if you aren't going to be able to get access to water (DD loves using hand sanitiser so this makes her even more enthusiastic about the whole business).

Praise, praise and more praise is the thing. Praise for asking to sit on the potty, praise for sitting on it and serious praise for producing anything. And don't despair (mind you, I sit here now saying that like I'm an expert - we are only on day 5...)

anditwasallyellow · 24/07/2012 11:31

The only rule for me is to leave him until he is ready. If he won't even sit on the potty you've no chance.

Ds was 3 and 3 months when he finally cracked it and it took a week and he was completely willing.

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DozyDuck · 24/07/2012 13:57

I'm currently on potty training year 4 of that's any consolation Sad just keep going. I just threw the nappies in the bin and make sure I have lots of changed with me at all times and praise for toilet use. In hoping he will click

lastnerve · 24/07/2012 16:39

I supppose the 'he's not ready are probably right,

But when will he be ready? Sad

I'm already getting a lot 'Ooh not potty trained he's nearly 3?' Sad Angry

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lastnerve · 24/07/2012 16:40

*I suppose people saying 'he's not ready' are probably right.

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lastnerve · 24/07/2012 16:40

Oh good luck Dozy!!!!

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Antianniversary · 24/07/2012 16:49

Good luck.

We have just potty trained DD 2 and 4 months. She would not go on the potty, but when we bought a little toilet seat, she went straight to that. she just didnt like the potty (or wanted 24 weeks pregnant me to charge up and down the stairs to the toilet 50 times a day with her).

I agree with go cold turkey and relax about it - we started on holiday so she just ran around bare bottomed until she got the idea, fine in this weather too. Bribery with stickers worked wonders.

Also, I would say stick with it. I was ready to give up at the end of day 2, but on day 4 she just started to get it and after seven days has been dry ever since.

Galena · 24/07/2012 17:35

DD is 3.3. We've been nappy-less during the day now for about 3 weeks. She is now pretty much dry in the day as long as at we ask her if she needs to go she won't ask. I'm getting a little frustrated, but don't know what I can do. If I just leave her she wets herself. If I ask her she'll usually say yes if she needs to go.

When we go out I put a pull-up over her knickers so she still feels wet, but we don't get wee everywhere.

Any advice?

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