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AIBU to be tearing my hair out about mother coming to stay post-baby? (bit ranty, sorry)

56 replies

MangoHedgehog · 12/07/2012 15:02

Seriously, am I being overly precious about this? Would appreciate some views.

DD2 was born 10 days ago. My DM, who lives overseas, is planning to come to stay for a week, the idea being that she will help me round the house when DH goes back to work.

She did the same when DD1 was born, and while it was lovely to see her I still remember her special brand of 'helping' - she's got a really overbearing, domineering personality that she has no ability or desire to control - and although she was a great help with cooking and cleaning she also showered me with unsolicited advice, accused me of 'malingering' when I had double mastitis, constantly pulled rank on me by reminding me she'd had 2 kids while I only had 1, and got offended when I didn't take her parenting advice as I was implicitly insulting the way she raised me Hmm

The other thing about my mum is she loves a good party and is always looking for any excuse for a piss up, so whenever I am with her there is always this pressure to have a drink, have another drink, stay up as late as possible etc.

For all these reasons I have been a bit nervous about having her over again. I don't want to party, I just want to rest (am very anaemic after a PPH and not drinking much due to bf and also, frankly, because we have a newborn baby to look after!)

The whole process of planning her visit has been a bit draining tbh as we have had to negotiate everything to the last detail. For example:

  • we tried to persuade her to stay in a B&B up the road instead of on our living room sofa, as we didn't want to feel pressured not to disturb her when we are up in the night with DD2 - she flat refused
  • she said that her DH, my SD, might be staying for 'a few days' as well - I objected due to lack of space (and the fact that he doesn't get on with my 5-year-old DD - that is a whole other thread though) and I said if he stayed they would have to go to the B&B - she did concede that one (at least I think she did, no response to my text so I am taking it as tacit acceptance)
  • she invited my DB and SIL to stay for a few days as well (in the B&B) - basically assuming I would be fine about it - I do want to see DB very much but am getting worried that this sounds more and more like a big reunion (read: another excuse for a drinking session)

She used the birth of my DD2 as an excuse to have a three day piss up - I rang her from the delivery suite and she was so pissed I could hardly talk to her - then when I spoke to her the next day she said, 'gosh, I feel as if I've run a marathon' (um, excuse me but are you the one with the massive episiotomy and 1500ml blood loss??)

The latest is she texted me today to say I should expect a delivery of £100 worth of booze to my house.

I thought she was supposed to be helping me with the DCs?!

Am tempted to text back saying, 'good luck getting through that lot then!'

Actually she would have no problem getting through that much over a week, she drinks constantly despite having her gall bladder out last year. I suspect she may have a bit of a drink problem tbh. I am not too keen on her looking after my DCs at all while she's drinking. Am not keen on her holding DD2 after she's been smoking, but that would mean she couldn't hold her at all, as she smokes 40 odd a day (in the back garden yes, but will still be on her clothes).

This whole week is going to be one long trial of constantly either reining her in or biting my tongue, isn't it. Oh god I am dreading it.

I haven't even mentioned the constant stream of Daily Mail-derived right wing political opinion which is almost as draining just to try to ignore as it is to tackle head-on....

Do you think I should be a bit more easy-going and try to get into the party atmos a bit? after all, a new baby is something to celebrate, isn't it? or should I do what I really want to do and just disappear off upstairs with my DDs at every opportunity?

Also, how do you think I should respond to the £100 load of booze text?

OP posts:
JollyHockeyStick · 12/07/2012 15:05

Newborns shouldn't be touched by someone who has had a cigarette within the hour.

Text her back and tell her you are donating the booze to a local charity for raffle prizes :D
Sorry for not being helpful. She sounds like a nightmare. You will just have to tell her how you feel.

GinPalace · 12/07/2012 15:09

Blimey - all you describe would be enough to make me want to move house quick!!

Get into the party atmos? Are you stark staring mad? The only atmosphere you need so soon after a new baby arrives is a calm loving one. If people want to celebrate they should do it well away from newborn and nowhere near anaemic new mum. Shock

If she can't actually be a helping hand doing stuff like household chores and fetching loaves of bread she should leave her visit until things have settled and you have recovered.

If it is too late for that I would ask that as many of your friends (who are not like her) visit while she is there and deflect the heat from you. Though you should be getting help, sounds like the best help would be to deflect your mum away from you and new baby.

Booze delivery? - words fail me. Is she going to complain about the 3am crying when she has a hangover? I have no idea what you could reply to that text as anyone who can't see that is out of order isn't going to understand anything polite!

diddl · 12/07/2012 15:13

Can you book her into the B&B-& have the drink sent there!?

EMS23 · 12/07/2012 15:15

Book her the room at the B&B and give her no choice in the matter. You really don't have to put up with all of this. Get your DH to do it, if you don't feel up to the discussion.

By the way, it does sound like she has a drinking problem.

sleepsforwimps2010 · 12/07/2012 15:17

I would respond to text
' booze delivery..... haha mum good one! you really had me for a minute!!, silly I know when your coming to help with children... lets say im sleep deprived haha!'
that way she should see how RIDICULAS a thing that would be......
failing that, id tell her you are ill with a,new baby and a young child... party's will not be held or welcome at this visit, AT ALL!!
good luck xx

ginnybag · 12/07/2012 15:19

OP, she sounds very like my mum, and I know exactly what you mean about the pressure to drink.

I hate to say it, but it took me having a complete hissy fit at mine before she began respecting me as an adult and not talking over me all the time. I know it feels like the world is ending and there's a real fear of rocking the boat, because she's really not stable, but....

In you shoes I'd ask her why she needs that much booze by return text. Explain, bluntly, that you aren't drinking at the moment, and that you therefore don't see why a week stay for one person needs more than a couple of bottles of wine.

Worst case scenario is she's freaks and you can always blame new mummy-blood loss-hormones but you have to stand up to her! It wasthe best thing I ever did.

LemonBreeland · 12/07/2012 15:21

Why are you allowing her in your house? It sounds like a recipe for disaster. Her domineering ways mean she has walked all over you and is doing what she wants.

THere is not a hope in hell I would have her anywhere near my house.

nellyjelly · 12/07/2012 15:21

NU. She needs telling. She sounds like a nightmare.

ClassFree · 12/07/2012 15:25

It sounds as though you have a mum that loves you, and your family, very much. It also sounds like a crazy stressful time!
Maybe the best bet is a bit of space, and easing up.
Tell her that you are going to have to have her stay at the B&B, but that you can't wait to see her. If she protests, tell her you are under too much stress, and you know she wouldn't want to add to itSmile

dozensofpichu · 12/07/2012 15:25

Do you actually want her to come? It's sounds like a lot of added stress to me. If you don't want her to come just tell her you don't want her to come! Make an excuse, say you want to get into a routine with your LO's or something.

Bossybritches22 · 12/07/2012 15:29

Put your foot down & say DH/HV/Docs/ Midwife has insisted that they all stay in B&B & thank you but you don't want the booze could it be cancelled.

Sounds a nightmare, I can see you taking to your room with the baby if she comes.

Bossybritches22 · 12/07/2012 15:30

YANBU either! Grin

AND yes congratulations on the new arrival!

QuizzicalJoan · 12/07/2012 15:32

My goodness you MUST stand up to her. Now is the chance you've been waiting for. Book her into the B&B and tell her that is where she is staying. If she wants reasons, you have them.

If she is upset, you have post-birth hormones-a-plenty to blame for your blunt approach. She'll forgive you, she'll still come and stay, be involved and your relationship will (hopefully) be better for it in the future.

And yes, alcoholism is a wide spectrum, and from my own (very similar) experience I would say that she probably is an alcoholic. I would also be reluctant to allow such a heavy smoker to hold your newborn closely, and I would tell her that, backed up by the relevant NHS leaflet from your local hospital. Hopefully she'll cut down on smoking during the day for the days she's staying with you, in response.

It's down to you to act - nobody else will do this for you! Good luck.

Ghoulwithadragontattoo · 12/07/2012 15:33

Say she (and her DH) should stay at b and b or stay at home. Agree to what you feel you can cope with in terms of visits of, say, max 2 hours per day. Accept help with cooking and cleaning but say no thanks to parenting advice. Suggest your DB comes dor a short visit after your mum has gone.

Good luck, perhaps your DP can sort it as you need to rest and recover :)

DrSeuss · 12/07/2012 15:39

Is your mum my mother's long lost sister? My mum died a few years ago and one of my greatest regrets in life is not telling the evil, self centered bitch where to go while I still could! You rmother sounds uttely selfish. This time is about you getting well and looking after your immediate family, not about her. Just tell her NO!

ivykaty44 · 12/07/2012 15:40

Text back and say

Gosh I didn't know that was your booze delivery and sent the man to the local public house thinking it was their delivery gone astray!!

Every time she mentions her views on mothering one way or the other - just repeat loudly - at least they will not have to grow up in a plumb of smoke and stink to high heaven

YouOldSlag · 12/07/2012 16:11

YANBU.

She can't possibly stay if she smokes 40 a day and has ordered £100 worth of booze. What is this? a teenage sleepover?

Make this the watershed in your relationship. YOU are in charge of YOUR home and YOUR family, not her. Make it very clear now or this control freak will dominate you for the rest of her life until someone stops her. She will ruin your first precious days as a Mum of two. You will never get those days back.

When we had DS1, DH and I said no overnight guests until the baby is in a routine. MIL kicked off big time and threatened all sorts, but we stood firm. She threatened to cut us off for life, but stupidly that would have meant not being a part of her grandson's life. We stood our ground and she has toed the line since.

Get your DH on board, tell her your midwife said no guests, tell her anything, but tell her NO.

It's a B and B or nothing at all.

Don't be afraid, What's the absolute worst she can do?

maybenow · 12/07/2012 16:15

tell her she's NOT staying in your house, whatever she says, she has to stay in the B&B.

then just try your best to stay calm through the week.. maybe have an arrangement with your DH that he takes her out to the pub or for dinner anytime she gets too much.

could you also contact DB and SIL and say to them that it's great they're coming cause they can keep your mum entertained as you'll be too tired to socialise much.

holyfishnets · 12/07/2012 16:50

Tel her she can't stay at your house and infact nobody can. Don't explain, just tell her you want some space to bond and say its not up for discussion. Tell her you will send drink to the B&B

cormsilkye · 12/07/2012 16:54

text back that you will have absolutely no alcohol delivered to your home and that she is not to drink in your home at all while she is staying. She might go to the b&b then!
Don't accept the delivery when it comes.

MangoHedgehog · 12/07/2012 16:55

maybenow yes I thought that DB and SIL might actually help take the heat off us a bit if they came.

I do need to deal with this head on, I know. I replied by her text by saying, 'bloody hell that's a lot! we aren't drinking at the moment as we have to look after the baby but you knock yourself out! xxx' no reply which is usually a telling sign.

I would love to book the B&B and hand it to her as a fait accompli, but it's difficult as we have already negotiated that one - it finished with me saying, 'well I wanted to make sure you knew what you were letting yourself in for' and me and DH resolved not to tiptoe around her at 5am but just do everything we would normally do, which hopefully would be enough to send her running to the B&B by day 3!

The thing is, I do want to see her and I know she is dead excited about coming, it's just that this is how her excitement manifests itself - she honestly knows no other way of enjoying herself

The teenager comments are funny, she does seem to act like an adolescent these days while I'm the uber-responsible one

OP posts:
DublinMammy · 12/07/2012 17:02

I know you say you have had the conversation about the B&B but if I were you I would book her in and explain it as "DD2 is not sleeping at all at nights and we simply MUST have our living room free. I know you understand and wouldn't want to be woken all through the night anyway especially as you will be in a drunken coma so we have booked you into the B&B. That's also where we have forwarded all your booze". Repeat, repeat, repeat. Do not change your tune.

Just don't let yourself be bullied, it sounds like a disaster waiting to happen otherwise. You will possibly want to slope off to bed at 8pm every night, just as the party is starting downstairs and it's grossly unfair of her to think this would be acceptable.

DuelingFanjo · 12/07/2012 17:06

"I replied by her text by saying, 'bloody hell that's a lot! we aren't drinking at the moment as we have to look after the baby but you knock yourself out! xxx' no reply which is usually a telling sign."

text again saying 'actually I don't want you to be staying up drinking in the house while we are trying to cope with a newborn so I'll ask them to take it away when it arrives'

DuelingFanjo · 12/07/2012 17:06

yes, and book the B&B for her. Just tell her that you have decided it's going to be too crowded so you have booked it for her and DH will drop her there after she has seen the baby.

HipHopOpotomus · 12/07/2012 17:07

bloody hell - YANBU to be stressed by this.

re the booze delivery, refuse to sign for it & send it back. I love a drink, I do, but that it completely out of order.

Agree with what dublin says about needing living room free. I couldn't bear having a new born and not having free range of the house, 3am access to sofa etc

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