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To think that if you are struggling to feed your kids.

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cuteboots · 09/07/2012 10:05

So a member of my family i.e a cousin is a single mum with 3 kids. An 18 year old son who sits in the house all day playing on line poker and 2 children at school. She has been offered a job in a care home but is going to turn it down? No childcare? So could the 18 year old son not help? Also based on the fact she is obviously struggling could she not take the job for a while . I know its not the ideal job so please tell me if Im being silly? Ive probably opened a tin of worms here

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Birdsgottafly · 09/07/2012 11:03

I would want to know why she is struggling to feed her children, is she widowed?

While we have this level of single male/female unemployment, i don't think that single parents and 18 year olds should be the one's forced into employment, or child care, to be able to eat adequately.

We are not a third world country.

StealthPolarBear · 09/07/2012 11:06

"While we have this level of single male/female unemployment, i don't think that single parents and 18 year olds should be the one's forced into employment, or child care, to be able to eat adequately. "
Agree. This would need to be a short term solution. Suppose I a, thinking of end of term coming up. Long term he needs to be in education or some sort of "proper" employment. She needs to be either a SAHM with money to live life at a reasonable level for them all, or working in something that she is happy with, not forced into.

Birdsgottafly · 09/07/2012 11:08

"He is old enough to get a job looking after other people's children so why not take care of his own siblings"

Not independently he isn't and if she died tomorrow, SS wouldn't award them to him. He would have to take over homework and everything else, if she took this job.

If the JC give him a 9am or 3pm, appointment, they will not accept the excuse that he has a school run.

He won't have a car and she mightn't, so getting about will add on extra half hours, at least.

Dropdeadfred · 09/07/2012 11:09

Well as far as 18 year olds going to uni, the government doesn't see them as independent adults, as the level of help they get is related to their parents income. There seems to be confusion as to 'how adult' an 18 year old is. Just because the law states they are adult at one minute past midnight on their 18th birthday does not mean that they are suddenly endowed with an adults experience, maturity and knowledge .

cuteboots · 09/07/2012 12:00

birdsgottafly-she has 3 kids by 2 dads who sadly dont give a flying fuck about these kids. She is such a lovely girl and It breaks my heart seeing her battle every day. Obvously you are not a single mum?

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BanoffeeSplitz · 09/07/2012 13:19

An 18year old is old enough to be paid to look after other people's children - in which case it would be a job, so they would (probably) take it seriously and - importantly - be getting paid for it, and probably have some support from more experienced workers, if in a nursery rather than a nanny setting.

An 18year old is old enough to have their own baby - that they have chosen to have and to take responsibilty for.

Both are different to even the most mature, responsible 18yo being asked to act as a long term unpaid carer for their younger siblings.

And I'm pretty sure she wouldn't be able to claim any childcare costs to pay towards a family member helping out.

And he will either get a job, or be forced into training schemes / unpaid work experience at some point, so it would be daft of her to rely on him for long-term childcare.

That said - she may be more entitled to childcare help than she realises. It can seem insurmountable before you go back to work, & it's hard to get reassuring info from jobcentre staff, but there are (or were Hmm ) grants to do things like pay the first few weeks childcare, HB run-on etc.

jellybeans · 09/07/2012 13:21

YABU care homes often want flexibility and shift workers. Also can't expect the 18 year old to parent. It would be a nightmare trying to sort childcare out for different shifts each week. If they are primary age she is entitled to turn down anything other than school hours I think anyway.

BigBoobiedBertha · 09/07/2012 13:23

How old are the other 2 cuteboots? It does make a big difference imo.

cuteboots · 09/07/2012 13:42

Her other 2 kids are 6 and 10.

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StealthPolarBear · 09/07/2012 14:11

OK so the younger one at least still needs a fair amount of actual 'parenting' (no experience of 10yos :o)

Dropdeadfred · 09/07/2012 14:48

It's really unfair on young children to be left with an older sibling who doesn't want to 'babysit' too

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