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to think this is truelly outrageous behaviour and doesnt involve a cloth!

68 replies

elizaregina · 05/07/2012 13:24

Huge problems with PIL for me, who was verbally attacked by them, not only 6 days after giving birth but just over a week after simultaneoulsy loosing my DB. DH who suffered as a child and was in a very bad way when first met him due to them, and now over the years - after initially trying to help them build brigdes have realised its no go and awful to have any dealings at all.

Infact after years of trying to get DH to see them in a diff light - come at them in different ways, I was accused of breaking him up from them, even though he was in counseling due to them when first met him! ..DH had best policy all along! Ie, keep at arms length.

Fil in law is very very tough, robotic business man who is mainly mouthpiece for incredibly rigid and strict german wife....when you go to their house there is a room you are not allowed in, and you are very aware its HER house, and that you WILL be made to be subordinate to HER floor, HER granite work top, HER delicate wood flooring that could WARP at the slightest drip of tea....she is obsessed with cleaning, will bath DD and wash hair and all clothes even if she is only there for a couple of hours and she hasnt seen her for a while. They dont talk to my Dh there just " dont scrape this/dont mark that/ be carful of this....she cried and was highly distressed when DH spilt something on her cream carpets saying" I cant have anyting nice when DH is living here" - she has a house most people would weep at! She has also told DH in the past she knows she is anal but all she has is her house!

anyway - FILS bro is visiting from OS, writes round robin to all fam here - with list of what he wants to do - one thing being for his DS to play with our DD.

DH responds, they communicate - and DH ends up with inviting DU over on sunday am, as thats conveient for him ( DU), in the morning and for lunch and if time play park. No response. But assumed - as his previous mail - was "great - where shall we meet and when" - all was fine. Also we are in between his last place where he will be staying and his new place with PIL. So its very conveint to come to ours then go onto next place 7 miles away!

So to then get another round robin of " final" plans, stating on sunday

"DS and DN playing at PILS, Lunch PILs and perhaps play park where PIL live."
Also a snide comment to all - but we feel aimed at DH - ...." please all reply to all much simpler than invidual emails I have to copy and paste" .
We have given benefit of doubt that he somehow missed invitation to ours on email but in my heart I know he has read it.

he has never been to our house, and we have been here for 6 years, he used to always talk at DH like harry enfield teenager, and seems a bit lost now DH is DH , and Father etc...I thought it was great uncle was coming here to be hosted by us - out of the PIL control zone, and perhaps uncle could see DH in new light and refresh the relationship with maybe more respect for DH!

I just feel uncle has been extraordinarily rude to totally by pass our invite and try and move the action to FILs house.

I have not been to PIL house since they attacked me, and I will not go on sunday. My DH will absoluty not go either without me to take DD!

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StarryCole · 05/07/2012 15:51

I forgot to add, you and hubby can control how much or how little his family interelates with yours. So if you are getting a barrage of pressure or unreasonable behaviour Be polite, walk away, put the phone down. If you feel the need to tell them why, then do so and if they are unable to be reasonable in response - then you can't make them be reasonable. - stop and disengage.

BupcakesandCunting · 05/07/2012 15:59

They sound like a bunch of loons.

Disengage and save your sanity. Do something less stressful with your weekend.

elizaregina · 05/07/2012 16:36

Mynewpassion

On a side note: when I had to babysit my niece (7 months) for a few days while my sister and husband attended a very close relative's funeral, I bathe her every day, watched her hair every day, and before her parents came home, washed her clothes (not every day). Did I do something wrong here?

Probaby not but the reason my MIL is doing it - is that she feels we are not clean enough! So probably cleaning her to make her clean as we cant do it - and also to make her clean to a standard fit for her clinically clean house!

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elizaregina · 05/07/2012 16:38

Some techniques for not thinking - picture them on your shoulder and them flick them off - picture them in your mind a picture in a frame frame with pastel colors - picture it getting smaller then disappearing or screw it up. Sounds crap but I found theses things surprisingly helpful.

sounds very helpful will def try these!

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elizaregina · 05/07/2012 16:39

starrycol
Not sure if that was helpful or not but hug to you.

ahhh thanks starry!

will try to disengage.

i had planned a nice tapas lunch too - so dont know if going shopping etc...

anyway - will try and forget about it whatever hapens, hopefully he will simply respond and say it was a mistake nad of course he will come to ours...

Thanks all!

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zipzap · 05/07/2012 17:24

If you're genuinely not bothered about PIL reaction then do as du suggests - send a reply to the round robin to everyone and say that there seems to be some misunderstanding/arrangements being made at cross purposes/etc as you thought that he was going to stop at your house to play and have lunch before going on to PIL - because as you know we don't go PIL house. And then suggest that if they are now fixed about having lunch with PIL on that day then how about meeting up at a different time or on a different day for the kids to play together and for us to catch up with you... And say that

Be really nice in the email so they can't hold anything in it against you, but let them know that you (as a family) will not be going to PIL.

The only thing to console yourself with is that PIL will hate to be embarrassed by this sort of email... You also have to decide whether or not you care if your dp and dd do get to play together with du/dn and whether or not you want to be forced to see them at your PIL or not see them at all.

Tricky I know but you'll know yourself!

elizaregina · 05/07/2012 18:31

You also have to decide whether or not you care if your dp and dd do get to play together with du/dn

No not really fussed, he is a sweet little boy and his DM, at our last meeting seemed very keen for an exchange when they are older as he only speaks french...and she is keen for him to learn english....

but if DU isnt going respect us on this visit they can forget about future exchanges.

it would have been nice to see uncle etc, but now its turned into this USUAL horrid anxiety ridden CRAP....

i would happily tell them all to get stuffed.

already done " round robin" but didnt mention wont be under any circs going to the pils yet.

i bet my MIL is wondering whether it would cost much to get a hit man onto me, and PIL is saying perhaps he can try it himself ot save money!

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lastnerve · 10/07/2012 12:48

Sorry to Pry but why were you verbally attacker what is their issue with you exactly??.

elizaregina · 10/07/2012 12:56

Sorry to Pry but why were you verbally attacker what is their issue with you exactly??

  1. She gave me a handbag from a house clearnance she did - and it was left in " filth". I actually didnt understand! The filth was dirty plates sitting on the side ready to go into dishwasher and handbag wasnt even touching.
  2. why dont i help my DH " smarten" up to help him get a better job. DH is more relaxd when it comes to smarting up - BUT i think that is becayse he was sooo micro managed at home his own body was the last bit of personal space so i am loathe to try and push him.
  3. i was disgusting for watching TV and eating choclate breast feeding. ( i had been cleaning with HER all bloody week and had a migrane on day she mentioned and its not her bloody business anyway!!!)
  4. she dosnt know anything about my family...she had 5 years to ask me, she was never interested when i mentioned them!
  5. the friends she has met were " dreadful" - my ex BIL had tatoos!
  6. i have cut them off from him! at that point he saw them regualry, and it was also me getting him go - stupidly...
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lastnerve · 10/07/2012 12:58

Did your DP stand up for you? has she apologized.

elizaregina · 10/07/2012 13:02

no dp didnt, they plotted to get him out of the house with FIL!!!

so she could have me all alone!

she has never apologised, we tried to put out an olive branch - invited them to baptism - ( she didnt speak to me nor did sil), asked to get married in thier garden a few years later ( told they would have to talk about it- with control),
had them round with german relis at xmas - again i was ignored by MIL. funeral last nov, huge probs as DH already had a suit to wear and mil decided he was wearing a brand new suit! she ignored us the whole time!!!!! she looks at me - as if i suddenly turned on her out of the blue not hte other way round...looks at DH with haunted eyes. she blames EVERYTHING on me.

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elizaregina · 10/07/2012 13:03

oh yes

  1. what happened to my " nesting" the house is disgusting....

I had literally buried my brother who died suddenly without warning on the wed - went into latent labour on thurs and had my baby a week ealry on sunday - i hadnt even had mat leave! we were in middle of renovatin also and everyone who came to my house for the funeral said after hearing her attack - that it looked totally fine to them!

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minimisschief · 10/07/2012 14:30

isn't this the third thread on these in laws now.

MadamTwoSwords · 10/07/2012 14:44

OP I say this in the nicest possible way but you are getting way too wound up with all this. Three threads over basically the same issue is excessive.

I am not denying they seem complete nightmares, I just don't understand why you and your DH don't just stop being in contact with them. If other family members want to see you they will come.

I understand you are pregnant and hormones go crazy but I think you are overthinking this way too much and it can't be good for you.

elizaregina · 10/07/2012 14:55

i know its boring!!!!

1st thread about outragous behaviour
2nd an update
3rd about a new scenario with the GGM wanting advice .

anyway -had some great advice...thanks all....got some good options to look at....

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hopkinette · 10/07/2012 16:08

You should start another thread about them. That would probably help.

elizaregina · 10/07/2012 16:38

well if i had known about mumsnet sooner I would have bored everyone ridgid with various trangressions over the years! this is just the tail end of it.

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holyfishnets · 10/07/2012 18:11

just email DU and say that you/DH don't want to go into detail but you haven't been back to your IL's since she verbally attacked you with a new born/a week after death of brother. Explain that you won't be there on Sunday but if DU wants to come round another time, he is more then welcome as it would be lovely to catch up.

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