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To wonder why on earth you would not vaccinate your DCs?

999 replies

olimpia · 04/07/2012 20:49

I hear from another thread that some people choose not to vaccinate their DCs at all and I'm genuinely interested to hear why because I can't think of a single reason not to. I can perhaps understand opting out of the MMR if someone believes the bad press (not that I do) but all the other vaccinations? Why, oh why?
(not a troll! Just relatively new to MN)

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GrahamTribe · 04/07/2012 22:25

You can be a qualified but non-practising lawyer/doctor, Cats, perhaps?

ReindeerBollocks · 04/07/2012 22:25

mince I would consider anything other than a medical reason not to vaccinate, a lifestyle choice not to vaccinate.

If that was aimed at me of course.

ReindeerBollocks · 04/07/2012 22:26

Doctor /lawyers aree either someone who was a doctor who changed to law or visa versa. Or maybe a lawyer who did medical negligence, as those lawyers know very detailed things about the medical profession.

LunarRose · 04/07/2012 22:27

Cats don't care - I think from what I've read there are different types of autism. brain scans show that the brain has developed differently. From memory in children who are autistic from birth the brain is bigger, but with more folds and (I think) less or the wrong electrical connections and some parts of the brain are bigger..regressive autism is different. and then there is autism that is caused by chromosome deletion.

olimpia · 04/07/2012 22:27

Sort of lawyer. I have a law degree but work in another field.
I get what mince said now Grin

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Catsdontcare · 04/07/2012 22:29

Ah yes thanks graham?

If your choice not to vaccinate is based on your belief or your concern that it may not be in the best interest of your child then do you consider that to be a valid reason or does "medical" reason constitute a dr telling you don't vaccinate your child

Catsdontcare · 04/07/2012 22:30

Grin gotcha Grin

minceorotherwise · 04/07/2012 22:30

Reindeer, sorry yes I was asking you. I couldn't think of another reason other than medical that someone wouldn't vaccinate

GrahamTribe · 04/07/2012 22:32

I'd say that in almost any subject area a genuine belief that something isn't in the best interests of your child is a valid reason.

LunarRose · 04/07/2012 22:32

Raindeer: I would be at a loss to work out whether you would consider my decision to or not to vaccinate is lifestyle or medical?

Love Ds to pieces but wouldn't wish his "lifestyle" problems on his worst enemy.

Dawndonna · 04/07/2012 22:32

mince
Just trying to put in in simpler terms. You're wrong I'm afraid, I'm not a lawyer.

ReindeerBollocks · 04/07/2012 22:32

Did I clear it up or just confuse you further mince? :) I hope I did.

ReindeerBollocks · 04/07/2012 22:33

I hope I did clear it up, not confuses you Blush

time for bed methinks

minceorotherwise · 04/07/2012 22:34

Didn't think so

minceorotherwise · 04/07/2012 22:35

Sorry, last post was for dawn!
Reindeer, I just don't get what a lifestyle choice would comprise of

ReindeerBollocks · 04/07/2012 22:36

Autism or any other medical related reasons (whether supported by medical reasons or not) I would consider as a medical reason not to vaccinate Lunar.

DS has a medical condition which means his health could be compromised by lack of vaccine, so I try to be sympathetic to any parent with any illness/conditions. It's parents who choose not to for not wanting to, herd immunity will cover them too, or that they just don't want to, that I object to.

redroof · 04/07/2012 22:37

Olimpia. Religion can also be a key factor. Amish do not vaccinate. ( google will probably explain)

LunarRose · 04/07/2012 22:37

No doctor would tell me not to vaccinate. Does that make it a lifestyle choice??? I think this a really grey area

Personally I would class a lifestyle choice as what job I do, what handbag I use.

olimpia · 04/07/2012 22:38

Lifestyle choice. What someone said about children not likely to catch nasty illnesses of they're breastfed, eat organic and don't spray the garden with pesticides.

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LunarRose · 04/07/2012 22:39

Raindeer actually your personal circumstances bring home just how hard the decision is. I do still believe in community responsibility for these things.

Catsdontcare · 04/07/2012 22:40

Thank you lunar. Ds has autism but oddly enough the question of why never enters my head much!

Dawndonna · 04/07/2012 22:40

Lunar. There are doctors now, who probably would advise against vaccination in your particular case. We know that the body of those with ASDs processes drugs differently.

OhDoAdmitMrsDeVere · 04/07/2012 22:40

Before this thread goes ballistic I might as well put twopennurth in.
I vaccinate. All mine fully vaccinated plus a bit extra.
I am very pro vaccination. I think they are a Good Thing.
However,
I have learnt over the last few years that those that chose not to tend NOT to be the sterotyped selfish, dippy hippies I once thought them to be.

They have their reasons and they are important to them and valid to them. I prefer to find out more about their reasons than to get into huge arguments and mud slinging.

I have very specific and strong reasons for being so pro vac and the people I know who hold different views have equally strong and specific reasons.

I may not agree with them but I respect them.

I reserve my anger for those that are careless with their infectious children or deliberately expose their children to infectious diseases.

(overuse of 'reasons' - its late)

ReindeerBollocks · 04/07/2012 22:40

Lunar, I assume that your DS has autism? Then I would say that your choice to not vaccinate, given the medical evidence (whether right or wrong) about the causes of autism, wouldn't be a lifestyle choice. Regardless of a doctors opinion. I don't compare it to handbags funnily enough.

I am talking about parents, whom I know personally, who don't vaccinate, for no reason than not wanting to, not caring about herd immunity, and not wanting that particular vaccine within their baby's system, for no particular reason or concern.

LunarRose · 04/07/2012 22:41

If I wasmother to your child I really wouldn't understand the reasons people didn't.

Mother to my own and I'm struggling to see how if I had another child I would