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Original poster

To wonder why on earth you would not vaccinate your DCs?

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olimpia · 04/07/2012 20:49

I hear from another thread that some people choose not to vaccinate their DCs at all and I'm genuinely interested to hear why because I can't think of a single reason not to. I can perhaps understand opting out of the MMR if someone believes the bad press (not that I do) but all the other vaccinations? Why, oh why?
(not a troll! Just relatively new to MN)

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Dawndonna · 04/07/2012 22:01

What we do know is that those with Autism have a brain that is wired differently. The US are paying out 'just in case'.
Yes there are still talks, but Wakefield's research was flawed.
These discussions piss me off because it may well put people off having a vaccine.

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olimpia · 04/07/2012 22:06

The herd immunity argument is very selfish unless you have to rely on it because your DC can't have the vaccine for medical reasons.

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minceorotherwise · 04/07/2012 22:06

I'm going to assume from that, that you are neither a doctor or a lawyer!

CaptainVonTrapp · 04/07/2012 22:09

clearly neither...

Dawndonna · 04/07/2012 22:10

Who is neither doctor nor lawyer?

Sorry, confused

GrahamTribe · 04/07/2012 22:10

Olimpia, selfish it may be and indeed some parents will willingly hold their hands up to that accusation. That's beside the point though, you asked why and that's one of the answers.

Cuddler · 04/07/2012 22:11

A big part of why i haven't is because i don't think they are necessary in this day and age when we have clean water and sanitary living conditions.Natural immunity is the best immunity IMO.Breastfeed,eat whole foods,be healthy,stay away from chemicals,theres no reason why you would catch diseases if you do these things.The illnesses we vaccinate for were declining way before vaccinations came around,due to better living conditions.

Dawndonna · 04/07/2012 22:13

Sorry, Cuddler. Not the case with polio.

Cuddler · 04/07/2012 22:14

I also don't think they work aswell as we are made to believe.I had measles as a kid,i was vaccinated for it too,before i caught it.90 per cent of whooping couch cases are in vaxed kids.

Cuddler · 04/07/2012 22:14

cough even!

LunarRose · 04/07/2012 22:15

Courts do not pay out massive cash settlements "just in case" Hmm you do actually have to prove your case. It would be interesting to know the evidence that was used in the case.....

Until that time I welcome debate

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olimpia · 04/07/2012 22:15

graham agree. I was just reflecting on the selfishness. Plus it's stupid to rely on it anyway because clearly there will alwaus be outbreaks with people traveling to countries where there's no "herd immunity"

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Dawndonna · 04/07/2012 22:16

Yes, but you didn't die from measles and they're not dying from Whooping Cough because they've been vaccinated.

Catsdontcare · 04/07/2012 22:16

Precisely how is the brain of autistic child "wired" differently? I mean what is the actuall physical difference?

GrahamTribe · 04/07/2012 22:17

Another one - I don't know if it's the case now but at one time some vaccinations were live viruses.

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olimpia · 04/07/2012 22:17

Who is not a lawyer or a doctor? Incidentally I sort of am one of the two.

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ReindeerBollocks · 04/07/2012 22:17

This is a sore point for me having an immune compromised DH and DS. I completely understand those who can't vaccinate for medical reasons. I vaccinate DS (and have had vaccines that aren't routinely given) to protect him. However I am aware that some children don't have that option.

However for herd immunity to work the majority of the population do need to be vaccinating, allowing the small minority who can't, to benefit from certain diseases not be prevalent in the general community.

Those parents who have no immunity deficient reasons but choose not to for lifestyle reasons piss me off as they're risking my immediate families lives by choosing not to. Its selfish and it's increasing the risks of diseases that were once on the decline in populated areas, TB and measles being the prime examples.

I understand the pleas of those who can't vaccinate, but not those who choose not to.

LunarRose · 04/07/2012 22:19

In fact if the courts did pay out "just in case", that would be good enough reason for me not to vaccinate "just in case" Grin

Dawndonna · 04/07/2012 22:19

It would be interesting to know the evidence used in the debate, but unfortunately, it's not all available. The other thing that would be good to know was whether or not it was peer reviewed evidence.

Evidence can be fallible and often is.
I am happy to debate causes of Autism, I have some knowledge. My knowledge at present extends to not believing it has anything to do with the MMR vaccine, due to a distinct lack of evidence.
However, as was pointed out earlier, this thread is not about that.

Catsdontcare · 04/07/2012 22:19

Obviously I know there are differences

JollyBear · 04/07/2012 22:20

Really?! Eating all bran to combat Measles?

girliefriend · 04/07/2012 22:20

or measles.

I don't understand it either so yanbu Smile I think tbh its quite a reckless thing to do with your baby or childs health. I saw a programme recently about vaccinating children in a 3rd world country where parents had walked miles in order to get their kids vaccinated, we are so fortunate in this country to have them freely available.

If you didn't vaccinate and then your child contracted measles or something else I couldn't live with myself Sad

minceorotherwise · 04/07/2012 22:20

Dawndonna, I was referring to the 'wired' and the 'just in case'
Therefore, neither a doctor nor a lawyer

Catsdontcare · 04/07/2012 22:21

How can you sort of be a lawyer or doctor?

Appreciate I am adding nothing constructive to the discussion

minceorotherwise · 04/07/2012 22:22

What would be 'lifestyle choices' ?