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AIBU?

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Aibu? To not let sons ex stay the night?

66 replies

ThatVikRinA22 · 24/06/2012 20:51

He just burst in saying his ex gf has no where to stay the night. I've offered ti drive her home nut I've no spare room, I've just finished nights and had Only 2 hours sleep, dh is up for work at 2am so she can't stay on sofa.... I would be happy to drive her to her home town , but because I've said it's highly impractical for her to stay he has told me to fuck off and stormed out..... I couldn't even have a proper conversation as I was in bath! I've txt to say come home and discuss it.... No reply. I'd hate for her ti have no where to go....but I'm also sick of him telling me to fuck off if he doesn't get his own way. He has special needs and is 20. Have I been unreasonable? I have no where for her to sleep! If gladly drive her home though.....

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ThatVikRinA22 · 24/06/2012 22:34

he has come back - she is staying in the premier inn up the road. i do not understand why i couldnt just give her a lift home and her explain there had been a mix up with her friend tonight, but there we go.

he is paying.

everytime he swears at me or is nasty to me he is killing our relationship. he says i was being illogical.
he wont get it no matter what i say. tbh all he does these days is make me feel like shit.

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Nanny0gg · 24/06/2012 22:35

What does your DH have to say about the way your son behaves?

Babylon1 · 24/06/2012 22:38

I've read a couple of your other threads re your DS vicar and I guess you must be nearing the end of your tether with him Sad

I hope he comes back soon to discuss properly with you, YANBU and I think I can understand the reasons why they're not to share a room too.

Good luck with it, and if and when you've finished taxiing exgf have some Wine

ThatVikRinA22 · 24/06/2012 22:39

DH is fast asleep in bed.

he says nothing, and does less. I asked him god knows how many times last week to sit with him and look at his bank account (he is in debt) and in the end i lost my rag and told him im sick of it all being on my shoulders, but nothing changes.

one day, i am actually just going to move out. i will just go wibble and leg it.

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Babylon1 · 24/06/2012 22:40

Oops posted too late, he's back already!
Now you can have that Wine Wink

ivykaty44 · 24/06/2012 22:41

you can be as illogical as you wish and he can go take a running jump if he doesn't like your illogical ways - simple

ivykaty44 · 24/06/2012 22:42

I do wonder how thebank think he is going to pay back the money and why the bank let him get more and more in debt? beggers belief really Sad

FiftyShadesofViper · 24/06/2012 22:46

I'm with Hecate and others here Vicar. I'm so sorry you are having such a shit time but I don't think you should allow this to continue, your son has to learn some boundaries and respect.

AnyFucker · 24/06/2012 22:47

Vic, in your position I might have reconsidered letting her stay

until your son verbally abused you

after that, all bets are off

you did the right thing, love

TwllBach · 24/06/2012 22:48

Vicar I have enormous respect for you. Ive read your posts about your son and think you are a marvel for doing what you do. I'm a support worker for an SN male a couple of years older than your son and he sounds very similar in his attitude towards his mother and his own future, although he is not as independent as your son. Ive seen how his mother copes to a certain extent and because of that I know that, merely by the fact that you are still there and still plugging away, like her, you are a real life super woman.

I don't care if that sounds weird, it's what I think.

ThatVikRinA22 · 24/06/2012 22:52

i have talked to him about verbal abuse, but we had the same conversation last week.
im going around in circles.
i asked him tonight what he thinks i owe him. he said nothing.

last set of my days off were ruined by him, and this set are going the same way.

it makes me laugh, last night, i had 5 missing teens to go find, and i found 4 of them, and then i come home and deal with the same crap.

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ThatVikRinA22 · 24/06/2012 22:57

Thanks twll.

i wish i felt half decent. he makes me cry through sheer frustration, and his words hurt, and he just stands there like a little boy getting a telling off.

at least he is home and the ex is safe. im not going to cause a row, but i have talked to him about how his actions and his words make me feel.....i asked him to note that his friends parents wouldnt let the girl stay either....and i pointed out that at least i offered some kind of solution, in taking her home.

i also asked him if he talks to other people like he talks to me.
i asked him to think about whether he sees me talk to his dad like that, or his dad talk to me like it....

he looks for all of 30 seconds like he is taking it in.

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WorraLiberty · 24/06/2012 22:59

You're a better person than I am OP because if my 20yr old DS told me to Fuck Off, he'd be staying at the Premier Inn too.

For a very long time.

ThatVikRinA22 · 25/06/2012 00:10

well cheers all, i just at that moment in time could not work out if i was being unreasonable....

i should try to get to bed, just finishing a crafty Wine....you know i stopped smoking 10 years ago but lately i could murder a ciggie....

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HecateAdonaea · 25/06/2012 06:22

It never goes away does it, that craving? Grin

You are further along than me, my two (both with autism) are only 13 and 11 and I know it's different because they are never likely to be independent in any meaningful way, so I can't totally relate and don't pretend to, but what are the consequences to him of treating you this way?

My youngest in particular doesn't really give a shit how he makes you feel. He doesn't get it. He certainly doesn't factor in the feelings of those around him when he does stuff!

So he needs painful (not physically!) consequences for unacceptable behaviour, because I can't rely on him ever not doing something because he doesn't want to hurt or upset me! He won't even think of me, iyswim.

Your son's behaviour needs to affect him. It needs to bite. If he's like my youngest, you can tell him that he's hurt you until you're blue in the face and he'll do the automatic "sorry" because he's learned that's the required sound - but he won't actually give a shit!

Is there anything you've got? anything at all? I realise at 20 it's going to be difficult if not impossible.

There is also the other option. At 20 he is an adult. He is entitled to support as a vulnerable adult, independent of you. You could hand over his care to social services, take a step back and have a different relationship with him - ie not his carer / financial advisor.

Easy to say though Grin my eldest is only 13 and i'm already having the cold sweats at the thought of him being 'out there'. Even though 'out there' in his case is likely to mean supported flat.

It's a tough one. In many ways, it's easier when they're children, isn't it?

izzyizin · 25/06/2012 07:41

A 16/17yo girl has the money to check into a Premier Inn or has your ds paid for her using your bank card Vic?

Will he be off to uni soon?

diddl · 25/06/2012 08:48

I suppose you´ve tried telling him to go to his father to deal with things instead of you?

ThatVikRinA22 · 25/06/2012 11:46

Ds says he paid half.....i would bet that he paid more than that.

If he re submits the one assignment he failed he should be going to uni in sept. Social services were meant to be coming out on Weds but ive had my sodding weekly leave cancelled due to the football.....im going to have to rearrange.

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ThatVikRinA22 · 25/06/2012 11:50

hevate - there is nothing really except turning off the internet and then he storms out. The 'sorry" i get is exactly that - a learned response to make me go away....

diddl i ve tried handing him over to his dad to sort out but he still comes to me and the thing is when he does, like last night, his dad was in bed as he gets up at 2am for work, so he was snoring away blissfully unaware and still is.

DS isnt here - i presume he has gone to meet the girl. I got up with DD this morning and went back to bed - the day after i come off nights im always knackered.

best go phone SS and rearrange the appointment.

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diddl · 25/06/2012 12:41

Yes, I can see how the shift work makes it difficult, but tbh, I´d have been sorely tempted due to the aggressive responses you get.

Mi

Doha · 25/06/2012 23:17

Is this his EX girlfriend
And if so why was she expected to stay in your house?

ThatVikRinA22 · 25/06/2012 23:43

because she had no where else to go doha.

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MammaTJ · 26/06/2012 07:20

Where are her parents?

ThatVikRinA22 · 26/06/2012 11:21

i dont know where her parents are - they used to live here but split up, she still has friends here so comes to visit often. I have taken her home before and know where she lives, with her mother and her mums new partner, but ive no idea where her father is.
i didnt have phone numbers for either of them.

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ChazsBrilliantAttitude · 26/06/2012 11:28

Vicar - I don't know much about your son's condition but I wonder if decides on the only possible solution to a problem e.g. ex gf stays the night and can't cope very well when someone doesn't accept that solution and suggests something else.

It doesn't mean it is ok for him to speak to you like that.

I would continue to support him with his final resubmission of his assignment so hopefully he will go to university in Sept.

At least he did sort out the problem with a reasonably sensible solution.

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