To Use Not tested on animals products on my dog

[theodorakis]

My King Charles gets dreadful eye scum. I used to use my Chanel eye make up remover to deal with it but now am cruelty free. Would it be ok to use a very expensive presumably tested on humans formula to do the same? Eye scum stinks so need to deal with it and water, camomile tea etc removes the lumps but not the stink.

What about saline solution?
Would not use human product on dog without vet advice.

I see a problem here.

If you use it on your dog, surely it will then be 'tested on animals' - and as you don't use those types of products, by continuing use you would be going against your own ethical stance?

Make sure you inform the company that you have tested it on your dog, so they can't continue to claim 'not tested on animals'...

Seriously though, I wouldn't use eye make up remover for doggy eye scum, I'm sure vets will have a more suitable product.

The op's not testing it rather just using a product.

If it doesn't get in the eye why not if you've used similar products previously.

www.amazon.co.uk/s/?ie=UTF8&keywords=dog+eye+cleaner&tag=googhydr-21&index=aps&hvadid=12425861156&hvpos=1t3&hvexid=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=3541662341548887424&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=b&ref=pd_sl_80xsd7wrd4_b

A quick google came up with various products designed for dogs.

www.amazon.co.uk/s/?ie=UTF8&keywords=dog+eye+cleaner&tag=googhydr-21&index=aps&hvadid=12425861156&hvpos=1t3&hvexid=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=3541662341548887424&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=b&ref=pd_sl_80xsd7wrd4_b

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chanel eye make up remover on a dog? maybe thats why its not clearing up! use boiled water or saline or something. or else go to a vet not your nearest BT Chanel makeup counter.

Please don't put any human beauty or health products on your dog. Products such as cleanoccular which you can get from your vets will do mild tear staining. Or look at the lintbells product silver water eye cleaner designed for dogs. Or cooled boiled water with cottonwool in the mean time. Saline isn't good around eyes either, though great for mild cuts and things in other areas.

The vet suggested it actually. I am not an irresponsible dog owner, it was a bit tongue in cheek. My 50 odd foster and rescue dogs have survived under my care, no need to patronise me. Actually, clinical beauty products around the eye are fine if tested on animals, the dilemma is that cruelty free products are obviously less safe because they are not tested.
Don't lose any sleep please on my capability to care for my pets.

And as for "clearing up", she is a grossly over bred probably in bred pedigree with a nose so short she can hardly breathe (maybe thats why someone chucked her out and left her in the desert to die), she has nothing fundamentally wrong, it's just tears, perfectly normal.

Scuzy, thanks for the intelligent words, so grateful for your clever, friendly and articulate response.

You post a question in aibu, you get some good, helpful, sensible advice and reccomendations then you get upset about it?
It makes no sense anyway, why would you want to use your expensive stuff on your dogs eyes which may cause irritation, when you can buy something cheaper that is safe effective and designed for dogs?!

I wouldn't use that on my dogs, sorry. Half of the products sold for animals are a rip off but with it being near their eyes I'd fork out for it

My friend caused a huge skin reaction in her dog by bathing it in a body shop shampoo - thinking she was doing the ethical thing. I would be very careful as dogs do have different reactions and something ok on humans might cause problems - just remember the problems dogs have with chocolate, raisins, onions etc.

I am a vet who loves traditional remedy and I always recommend cold tea for removing tearing twice daily so the smell does not start. The tannins in cold tea really help to reduce any inflammation.

Sorry but , talk to your vet, really don't understand what you are trying to achieve here.

I was coming to ask if you'd tried tea, but am glad Lizzie said it first, as I would have, frankly been to scared to post anything after that last post.

I just don't understand why you would ask for advice on a very common problem associated with dogs and mix it up with issues around animal testing. This is very easily remedied no matter what product you use. Just that these threads can get very divisive and then offer no help to anyone.

Thanks for the tea tip.

Body shop isn't ethical and a lot of beauty/pet products are tested on animals.

I use Oriflame cosmetics because they're ethical, not tested on animals (and good too :o ) unless someone wants to tell me otherwise?

:o no, but will go and look at the company and see who owns it, where they get their supplies from and wether they use products historically tested on animals.

The body shop used to be ethical but is now owned by a company who test other products on animals so, personally, I'd rather use other products but I am a bit batty.

poor dog why did you use eye make up remover on him ? anyway salt water should clear it up or help so not tested on animals the scum sounds like the dog has a blocked tear duct my cat was the same ,

I'd really like to know to be honest. Its a bit like Avon (with the order brochure etc) so I have to go out of my way to buy it and have to wait a while, so if I'm doing this for nothing I won't be happy.

Oriflame are good for the planet and local communities and have a very open website but they are on a 5year rolling rule in regards to testing on animals, this means they can state they won't use a certain igredient for 5years but could use it after those 5 years.

5year rule

There's some Ethical brands listed on one of their links.

Ah thanks. I've read about the five year rule. Oriflame have been going ethically for 75 years apparently so hopefully they'll continue to do so.

Thanks!