To Use Not tested on animals products on my dog

[theodorakis]

My King Charles gets dreadful eye scum. I used to use my Chanel eye make up remover to deal with it but now am cruelty free. Would it be ok to use a very expensive presumably tested on humans formula to do the same? Eye scum stinks so need to deal with it and water, camomile tea etc removes the lumps but not the stink.

It would be better if they stated a fixed end date as under the 5 year rule they can still use tested on animal products.

They do look like a great company, is there anyway you as a consumer can ask them for a fixed date end to animal testing.

Mmmm that might be a point, I could try I suppose. I'd like to email them and ask them why they aren't.

Bathing eyes (even human ones) in tea works wonders Just mash a cup, let it cool and bathe away, changing the cotton wool when you bathe each eye.

White, that might be a good starting point. It depends what you want from the company you're buying from, they aren't against animal testing, they just have a rolling policy. They are for the planet and local communities so do have good points. It's up to you as the consumer what you're willing to buy and where they stand as a company.

Tea doesn't work. Sorry for sounding like an arse but I am not completely stupid. Her tear ducts have been looked at and not blocked. she is a victim of horrid breeding and has everything under the sun that an inbred would have. she snores like a trooper and has apnoea, her hips are crap and her nose can't cope with living in the desert and needing it to actually breathe. My vet said to use sensitive eye make up remover around the eye but only the dermatology tested ones. I try had not to buy those products but the problem has only surfaced since I stopped using it and tried water (not saline) tea, camomile, pet products etc. I work part time for a vet clinic so am not too lazy or tight to get her looked at properly. Luckily for me with the billion rescues I can afford to always go down the vet route first. I understand that some of you may have thought I was just a bit silly or lazy or the kind of person who puts their dogs in dresses and paints their nails but I am not. sorry for being defensive, it is a bad trait to have on a forum, I agree.

I am also very keen for feedback on tested products, I really do want to do my bit.

Could you consult a herbalist? There are a few herbal remedies that may be appropriate but you'd need to see someone in rl.

Other than that, as you're in the desert, sunglasses? sounds daft but the glare may be a problem.

Alternative therapies are generally banned here but I agree about the glare. It was 53c yesterday, can you imagine? We try to do a walk at 4am and 6pm but in the middle of the day they do go out for a wee. The salukis wee and then lie in the shade but she snuffles around. I have spoken to my other half and we are going to have a shade put up over a part of the garden so in the summer months she can go out and not be in the sun.

And I only use carrefour eco brand cleaners and am realistic enough to know that I probably use other products like toothpaste and nappies etc that have been tested. I am actually keen to know who are the angels and offendors of the testing labels.

How do products to heal pets and agricultural animals get tested? How do vets train if not using animals? This has always confused me.

Interesting point.

Yikes, 53degrees? I'm struggling to imagine 23 degrees with the June we have had so far. Sounds daft but a mild solution of witch hazel may do the trick, its cheap, natural product thats nice and refreshing for the eyes and has antiseptic properties so assuming the stink is caused by bacteria in the soggy bits, it may help cure your problem. Tea is also very good, but I tend to use witch hazel for the horses as tea stains their coat brown which is not a good look when competing.

The men are outside as I write putting up the shade