To wonder why OUR justice system can't hand out sentences like this:

[JosephineCD]

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2159426/Disgraced-financier-Allen-Stanford-sentenced-110-years-prison-defrauding-investors-7billion--claims-hes-scapegoat.html?ito=feeds-newsxml

Disgraced Cricket impressario Allen Stanford has been given a sentence of 110 years for swindling investors. Now why can't our own pathetic justice system learn from this and start handing out lengthy sentences instead of pathetically short ones such as less than 10 years for killing someone?

Finance related crimes always seem to get toughter sentences. Doesn't seem right somehow.

If only the Daily Mail was in charge of the criminal justice system....

Oh yes, why don't we start handing out sentences which are so ridiculous as to be stupid. Stanford is already in his 50s/60s. 110 years. Yes, that's sensible.

yep aint justice great,take someones money get 110 years,kill or rape or maim their family members and youll be out in 15-25 ish ( in a lot of cases ). Makes no sense to me at all.
Though I think this country,well especially the south,is harder on most criminals than the UK is.

Bit stupid since they let him get away with it for so long.

yousankmybattleship You said it so I don't have to.

ps anytime I can reurn the favour...

There was me thinking you went to prison for rehabilitation - silly me

Return.

Obviously I don't want people to end up in urns.

I'd prefer offenders to be ground up for fertiliser

Josephine do you understand the criminal justice system here or abroad?

Surely you don't think Allen Stanford's crime of fraud in the US equates to a crime of violence anywhere?

The Americans seem to dish out longer sentences across the board, for all types of crime. Shame we can't do the same.

Their prisons are a lot harsher too.

The Americans seem to dish out longer sentences across the board, for all types of crime. Shame we can't do the same.

Their prisons are a lot harsher too.

And what good does it do? Do they have less offenders - no. Do they have less re offenders - no. The system doesn't work

We aren't Scandinavia.

Look at countries like Japan and Singapore. Very low crime, extremely harsh prisons, and very little in the way of welfare spending.

In any case, we haven't got the money to spend even more on welfare. Labour tried that and it didn't affect crime one bit. Crime figures might be down but actual crime is another story.

They don't always dish out long sentences. Some people get away with what you would consider pretty serious crimes, especially by plea bargaining. Especially child abusers, they seem to get away with the lowest of all. Felony abuse up to (but not including) death - could be 5 years maximum. Felony neglect in very very serious cases - has been plead down to a bit of probation. Etc etc.

Financial crimes get ridiculously high sentences compared to other crimes IMO. He'd have got less for murder or rape

Longer sentences don't seem to have much effect anyway

And what good does it do? Do they have less offenders - no. Do they have less re offenders - no. The system doesn't work
Would they have less offenders if they had a soft, European style system? - no!

What do you think I mean by "actual crime"?

The actual amount of crime that happens. As opposed to recorded crime, or crime statistics, which are juked to make the government/police look better. Didn't you watch the Wire?

Because there's no fucking point sending people down for 134 years. It's a meaningless and ridiculous prison sentence.

dumdedoodah, does hostilic mean hostile?

No, I think she means 'holistic'

He won't be in prison for 134 years presumably. It's just life meaning life. What the life sentence in this country was supposed to be, and what was promised to the people when the death sentence was revoked. Now we have "life sentences" that mean as little as six years.

Would they have less offenders if they had a soft, European style system? - no!

They would have the same number of offenders - it wouldn't alter the figures, apart from if they switch to a northern european system and then they would have less offenders.

85% of offenders in the Uk have been brought up in care and can't read or write, this does have effect on what happens