to whine and moan about my hot flushes?

[solidgoldbrass]

Because I have been alternately whining and laughing, really. And it's occurred to me that I might in fact be acting like the sort of person of whom my mother always says 'The only trouble with her is, when you ask her how she is she tells you...'

Don't get me going Ethel, my arthritis is giving me some gyp today sodding menopause

I mean, for some reason hot flushes (and OK being menopausal... FFS! In my head I am still 27 and will be forever) are a kind of amusing or at least mentionable ailment, like flu or a wierd mosquito bite, not a gross one like explosive diarrhoea or a sad scary one like cancer...

Oh FFS mumble, does it make your joints hurt more as well? And is that why I'm so tired?

Yep, I'm 49, menopausal for last 6 months and beginning to get q concerned that I now have osteo arthritis because my oestrogen levels have just gone through the floor.

Hence I'm awake at 2am because of the pain. . Don't get the flushes so much during the day, but I do wake up v hot a few times a night.

The tiredness is probably because you are also being woken up because you're hot in bed (not in that way, SGB, I;m sure you always have been )

Anyway off to bed again now, I can hear dh snoring three rooms away but I need to at least try to sleep.

For hot flushes try sage tablets get them from Holland and Barrett, really does help

YANBU - my recent namechange says it all

You have to talk about them, its an actual law.

Last year the class I worked in had 7 women and 1 man in it. We were all getting sweats and flushes and insusted on talking about them.

Poor bloke just wanted to stuck his head in the oven.

Get a hot water bottle. Fill it with ice-cold water. Apply to body. Works a treat.

YANBU

Only when they wear off I am freezing. And have no idea what to wear or what to dress DS in WRT actual ambient temperature.

It is hard not to moan about them because it feels so bloody ridiculous and outrageous that we - youthful, vibrant women in the prime of our lives- should be experiencing them.
But it does just make you sound like a pensioner.

Drink more water, less alcohol and use progesterone cream. Mine are gone.

Not at ALL unreasonable. Hot flushes are the work of the devil. I am in my 9th year of them, When will they ever stop?
My thermostat is just plain BROKEN!
(See, I can whinge about them with the best!)

Nina You have just made me suicidal! I'm on my fourth year and I thought that was bad enough. The hrt controls the daytime/evening hot flushes, but Oh God, I want some sleep! The night sweats are horrendous!

Sorry Dawn! I'm not on HRT though so that ought to make a difference. I tried lots of herbal remedies and nothing seemed to have much effect.
On the good side, I hardly use my central heating.

I also hate the idea that post-menopausal women are invisible. My menopause was a bit early and a horrible shock and in my head I am 24.
Repeat after me...I AM 24...

lol!
I'm 21 twice and 11!

What do you mean, 'less alcohol'! FFS I am a rock and roll party animal not a pensioner, and if I have to put up with this crap for the next nine years I am not doing it without a couple of pints.

put a dyson fan on your bedside table, as the first waves of flush wake you, you hit the on switch, it really works and you go back to sleep very quickly,

I am considering writing to MR.JD,and suggesting that in addition to his remote controlled fan, that there be an option of a skin patch, that when it detects a increase in body temperature, it automatically turns on the fan,

If he agrees to produce this much needed product, I intend to run for government, with just the one policy that on entering the menopause, each and every woman will be issued with one.

as I then would win every woman of a certain ages vote, plus the vote of anyone who has to live with them, I look forward to governing,

Mine are very intense and premature, as I have had to start taking tamoxifen, I am getting less sleep than when I had two babies, a toddler and a pack of teenagers.

NINE YEARS??!!

Quote, I'm in awe, you're a genius.
I'd vote for you.

I think more alcohol is the way forward.

I'm on HRT in preparation to having my ovaries removed. 2 weeks I've been on it and I don't look 20 years younger yet. Maybe it's a faulty pack .

OK SGB. I am sure you are right

I don't do HRT. I guess I am really lucky that found what works for me. You all have my heartfelt sympathy.

I've had them since I was 35 and I'm 43 now. I've sweated so much over the years I should be a size 4 not a 14.

Pag I rarely drink and the bloody doc won't give me progesterone cream.

Quote I'm voting for you.

I don't want HRT, can't rid myself of the lingering fear that it causes breast cancer and that's what killed one of my friends at the age of 54. Didn't it used to be evening primrose oil you took for all this business?

Black cohosh is supposed to help I know people who swear by it.

9 years!

I am taking soya and black cohosh (as recommended by the teenager who served me in Holland and Barrett) but it is not doing any good...

I am soooooo tired. Regularly wake up at 2.30am and then can't get back to sleep again.

It's not fair!

Look ladies, I'm nine years into this crap but I am still here. still fighting and still gorgeous.
Nil desperandum.

Also, having no periods is a VERY GOOD THING.