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AIBU?

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to think Alicia Douvall is an unfit parent?

102 replies

LinaLamont · 12/06/2012 21:23

I'm watching a docu-soap on BBC 3 and feel so sorry for her older daughter - who has to be behave like a parent. It's awful.

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CaveMum · 12/06/2012 22:05

I also read that she spent most of her erly years living with her grandparents.

halcyondays · 12/06/2012 22:08

She didn't have to have her nose job done the same day that her daughter was doing her exam, did she? Surely it could have waited, it was hardly a dire emergency. Apparently she wanted to have the operation done while she was still pregnant and have herself hypnotised, but funnily enough the surgeon refused.

Rockpool · 12/06/2012 22:09

Well Georgia seems to be a very happy,well balanced lovely girl who has plenty of food, a warm house,is getting an education and is obviously loved soooooo sorry don't agree with unfit.

She parents differently than me and is completely different to me but none of us parent perfectly.I certainly don't.If I do as half a good a job with my dd as she has done with Georgia I'll be happy.

Toughasoldboots · 12/06/2012 22:16

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VivaLeBeaver · 12/06/2012 22:17

Dunno about her parenting at all. Only came across her yesterday - but like fuck is she 32. She mist surely be more mid to late 40s??????

I'm 35 and she looks nearly old enough to be my mother.

CaveMum · 12/06/2012 22:18

Consensus seems to be that she is about 37 in reality. Someone on the Telly Addicts thread said she went to the same school as her.

mamasmissionimpossible · 12/06/2012 22:20

oh that was me, who said she was 37

I went to boarding school with when she was quiet shy young girl. She is unrecognisable now.

bronze · 12/06/2012 22:21

Georgia went to boarding school, at least for a while didn't she?

VivaLeBeaver · 12/06/2012 22:22

Well she looks as rough as a badgers arse for 37.

FunnysInLaJardin · 12/06/2012 22:22

I have just watched it and said to DH, if that were me I would rebel massively. I would just go out whatever she said.

YouOldSlag · 12/06/2012 23:01

I don't think Douvall can be credited with having raised a lovely daughter. It was boarding school and grandparents that raised Georgia.

CheshireDing · 12/06/2012 23:09

I watched this with DH and we both felt thay Georgia was very mature, can't believe she hasn't rebelled with that Mother.

On finding out Papaya's full name is Papaya Coco Piri Duvall DH said he really liked the name Coco, God help me!

Where are both Father's though?

bronze · 12/06/2012 23:14

What I find interesting is that those grandparents that did such a good job raising Georgia presumably raised Alicia?

WhosPickleisThatOnion · 12/06/2012 23:14

I think she has issues. She must be terribly un self aware to let that be televised like its normal. Agree poor kid.

RubyFakeNails · 13/06/2012 01:05

I certainly don't think she's an unfit parent, and people suggesting her children she should be removed from her are bloody ridiculous and out of touch with reality.

She doesn't parent in a way lots of people do, but her daughter is healthy happy, in a clean warm home, she's well taken care of, even if Alicia hasn't provided the education or all the childcare she should be given some credit for how Georgia has turned out.

Also she clearly has some problems. I've seen her on something's before and I think she has body dysmorphic disorder (?) surely people should be sensitive to that as they would do to others with mental health problem. If she was anorexic for example, I doubt the same comments would be made about her state of mind.

NicNocJnr · 13/06/2012 01:57

Children that have to take on the role of carer to a parent are often level headed, mature, responsible and everything else she has been described as.
They take on the role of adult, take responsibility because they feel they have to because the parent isn't or isn't able to.

I do think Douvall has MH problems, whether it's BDD alone is not really the relevant point. I think it's very sad her daughter probably hasn't had much of a childhood being fed, warm and loved if taken as the children's right it should be is poor payment for having missed the chance to be a child. Hopefully boarding school and her gp's have given her sufficient.
I'm glad she has a godfather that lessens the load but it would be nice for both mother and children if they all got a bit more support. I'm not sure her mother is in a place where she is willing to see her actions are a problem - she gets paid handsomely for them and gets the fame she desperately craves. It would be nice if she could find happines outwith the mirror.
I always feel sad for her.

bogeyface · 13/06/2012 02:42

To those saying she isnt an unfit parent I have a friend that works with children that are removed from their parents for various reasons, as their advocate. She makes sure that their wants are heard and not shouted down by social workers/judges etc. She works for an independent organisation.

She said to me (when we were talking about what my grandma and aunt used to have to do as girls in a large family) that abdication of parental responsibilty which is then placed onto a child is considered to be neglect, both of the younger child/ren and the older one/s who take the place of the parent.

A parent with MH issues can be a good parent, but equally, they can be a damaging parent. In this case, I think that both those children would thrive if there were away from their birth mother.

Thumbwitch · 13/06/2012 03:10

this is a bit about it - not a sympathetic writer!

swooosh · 13/06/2012 03:14

I feel sorry for the baby having the name Papaya

Mustgettogym · 13/06/2012 04:06

Well at least the DD no longer wants a boob job!!

Shagmundfreud · 13/06/2012 06:08

Well - whatever she's done, the proof of the pudding and all that.

The daughter is FAB. So mature. So sensible. Just lovely. Maybe she's like that INSPITE of her mother, but she could also be like that BECAUSE of her mother. You don't know.

And I think it's ugly that people on here are speculating that the dd's have suffered significant neglect and be taken into care on the basis that Alicia Douvall has mental health problems, and her dd missed an A level exam to support her mother through surgery.

sharklet · 13/06/2012 06:20

She is a wierd girl. I worked with her on a couple of shoots in the past and she comes over as desperate in everyway, desperate to be famous, desperate to be adored, it makes her really unnerving to be around.

I feel really sorry for this girl and hope she manages to remain balanced in the midst of such a crazy life...

RubyFakeNails · 13/06/2012 08:18

I think admittedly calling her papaya or the thing with the exam wasn't a parenting highlight, but her daughter is 17, so the babysitting and supporting her after surgery isn't really doing anything wrong.

By the s econd half of the show where she had the party for her daughter, the date and then teaching her to drive I though she came across well. Ok the pneumatic boobs around the girls friends was a bit cringeworthy but overall through those parts her parenting was in my opinion fine. Her daughter was happy at the end saying she had more freedom.

Here daughter is a credit to her, she clearly hasn't had support from the fathers but has arranged a good education for her daughter ( she had 100% attendance up until her mothers surgery so it's not like she is constantly pulling her out) regardless of who pays for it.

I also have a friend who works in social services, she is seeing on a regular basis parents who seem incapable of providing basic care such as a bed, clean clothes, clean conditions, love in any form and the children are still not removed.

She just seems desperate to be loved, I do pity her and I think she's just someone people love to hate.

Cockwomble · 13/06/2012 08:57

I thought the woman was an idiot who wants everything to be about her.

Uses her teenage daughter as an emotional crutch, substitute partner and babysitter.

She threw a tantrum because her daughter needed to stay in the country to do her mock a levels, something which is ever so slightly more important that having non emergency plastic fucking surgery.

She left georgia holding the baby & the next day, when georgia was clearly exhausted, she woke up and started harping on about how rough she felt.

The woman is a manipulative cow. She wouldn't let Georgia go round to her mates house to play xbox as "thats where she'll get a drink or drugs handed to her" and then goes on to have a pimps and whores (wtaf?) party 'for georgia'. Still wouldn't let the girl see her friends then fucked off on a night out?! I suppose if georgia did go out she might have to actually pay for a baby sitter.

At the end, when georgia said she was being given a bit more freedom - she did say she'd been allowed to go to two concerts coming up later that year. Two concerts.

Woman's a nutjob and more than once georgia looked so angry and fed up.

Mrsjay · 13/06/2012 09:00

I think alicia Duvall has serious problems and needs a lot of help i have seen her eldest daughter on another programme about cosmetic surgery and i felt so sorry for her she was basically parenting her own mother

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