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to love my 4x4

360 replies

holidaysarenice · 12/06/2012 14:10

And to not have to justify it to anyone!!

Pringles please?

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fruitysummer · 12/06/2012 14:16

Nope, I don't have one but my DH does and I bloody love driving it.

Any excuse to take his and leave my shit heap smaller car at home.

All our friends love it too - we're forever helping them out because their own cars are shit!

naturalbaby · 12/06/2012 14:19

YANBU.
I ignore the fuel economy every time I climb up into one of our 2 4x4's and tell myself I'm doing my bit for British manufacturing.

pjmama · 12/06/2012 14:19

Love mine!

I like having the last laugh when it snows and everyone else gets stuck.

BettySwollocksandaCrustyRack · 12/06/2012 14:20

YANBU - I like mine too. I have a shogun pinin so still quite small but I love it esp in the snow!

BettySwollocksandaCrustyRack · 12/06/2012 14:21

Natural - we are a 2 4x4 family too - DH has a gorgeous Mitsubishi Warrior which I just love driving :)

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 12/06/2012 14:23

YABU and selfish unless you need it. And it's not just about all the fuel they burn either...

The safety myth

Many people choose a 4x4 in the belief that their tall, boxy design is a magic formula for passenger safety, and the motor industry gives the impression that they are much safer than other cars.

However, neither crash tests nor the real-life safety record of 4x4s support this.

UK insurance industry figures from Churchill show that urban 4x4s are involved in 25% more accidents than saloon cars and do far more damage.[2] Admiral Insurance also recently released figures showing that 4x4 drivers are 27% more likely to be at fault in the event of an accident.[3]

The RAC Foundation says, "You could blame some of the higher accident rate for 4x4s on size. Drivers who are new to these cars might not realise how wide they are. There is also psychology involved - if you feel more secure inside a big 4x4, you might drive with less care than you should."[2]

The European New Car Assessment Programme (Euro-NCAP) carries out crash tests on cars available in Europe. Of the top 10 cars tested since 1998, none is a 4x4, and only three off-roaders make it into the the top 20 (see below).

Big 4x4s are right at the bottom of the class when it comes to pedestrian safety, getting an average Euro-NCAP crash test score of just 4 out of 36, compared with 10 and 13 for large and small family cars, respectively.

In October 2005, the British Medical Journal called for health warnings on 4x4s because of the dangers they pose for pedestrians,[10] and when new test results were released in November 2005, the only car with a zero rating for pedestrian safety was a 4x4 - the Jeep Cherokee.[11]

The UK Transport Research Laboratory released its annual report of deaths on Britain's roads in March 2005, providing hard evidence that the growth in popularity of big 4x4s is causing problems for road safety - 2004 saw the highest number of road deaths in seven years, reversing a long-term decline.[1]

The TRL blames the increasing mismatch between the size of vehicles on the road for a 1% rise in people killed in accidents in 2004. Passengers in 'super minis' were 12 times more likely to be killed than people in a 4x4 when these vehicles collided. The principal factor is the extra weight of the larger car, as well as extra height, which can override the bumpers and side impact protection on the smaller vehicle.

The Institute of Advanced Motorists in the UK has warned drivers of urban 4x4s to be more careful behind the wheel.[4]

Also in the UK, the Royal Society for the Prevention of Accidents has described 4x4s as "totally unsuitable for the school run."
Why so bad?

They key problems are their height and weight. The extra equipment needed for 4-wheel-drive and the extra ground clearance for off-roading is useful on difficult terrain, but it comes at a price (more about this on our Mission page).

In the USA, where big 4x4s are even more common than in Chelsea, the safety record of 4x4s is appalling:
A 4x4 is twice as likely to be involved in a fatal rollover as an ordinary car.[5]
If a pedestrian is hit by a 4x4 they are twice as likely to be killed.[6]
In a side-impact collision with a 4x4, a car driver is around 4 times more likely to be killed than if they were hit by another car.[7]

Urban 4x4s also have serious blind spots, extending more than 15 feet behind them.[8] In America, approximately one parent a week backs over and kills one of their own children in their 4x4.[8.9]

holidaysarenice · 12/06/2012 14:24

Ahh I love you all.....will gladly share my pringles!!

Maj - it won't open on my fone!

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bejeezusWC · 12/06/2012 14:25

idiots Angry

holidaysarenice · 12/06/2012 14:26

Ah I knew a party pooper wud come along soon with copy and paste.

No pringles for you!

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WhosPickleisThatOnion · 12/06/2012 14:26

Live in country YANBU

Live in built up city and drive at me in an aggressive way YABU

bejeezusWC · 12/06/2012 14:27

pringles are minging
stick em up yer arse

pjmama · 12/06/2012 14:27

To be fair Pickle anyone who drives at you in an agressive way is just a wanker, regardless of what they're driving! Grin

thestringcheesemassacre · 12/06/2012 14:28

I don't dislike your 4 x 4. I think some of them are quite nice.

What I do hate about them, is the way that drivers illegally park the fuckers all down our road and double park on double yellows etc so its actually quite hazardous trying to get out of our drive.

BettySwollocksandaCrustyRack · 12/06/2012 14:29

There's always one isnt there!

pjmama · 12/06/2012 14:29

Again - just wankers. They'd still be wankers if they were driving a Corsa.

bejeezusWC · 12/06/2012 14:30

There's always one isnt there!

what? a wanker in a 4x4? or someone who doesnt like pringles?

pjmama · 12/06/2012 14:32

You choose Wink

PrincessScrumpy · 12/06/2012 14:32

As long as you know how to reverse it and will drive it in the dark without being scared (like mil who uses main beam lights all the time in the dark despite us telling her it dazzles other drivers) then crack on. I could say boo hiss but I'd only be jealous.

BettySwollocksandaCrustyRack · 12/06/2012 14:32

Well I am not a wanker in my 4 x 4 and I dont like pringles either.

How about a judgemental wanker ??? Nope, I'm not one of those either!

IslandMoose · 12/06/2012 14:34

YANBU

If that's how you choose to spend your hard-earned and you're doing nothing illegal then go for it!

Rindercella · 12/06/2012 14:35

Betty, yep there's always one (although on this thread I expect there to be many! Grin).

I love my 4x4. And I'm not a wanker. I am sure I could google and find many positives to compete with the c&p twaddle above, but I can't be arsed.

fruitysummer · 12/06/2012 14:36

Why are 4x4 drivers always called wankers???

bumperella · 12/06/2012 14:37

The vehicle I get stuck behind on any of the (rural) roads around here is invariably a 4x4... why? Always he car that does 40mph regardless of the speed limit is a 4 x 4 (well, almost always).
And don't drive them if you can't park them.
And if the road is shut, it applies to 4 x 4's too....
And if you're going to drive them through flood water, then might I suggest (a) check the depth first, (b) drive slowly to avoid the backwash damaging areas around the road and your 4 x 4, rather than as fast as possible with your eyes shut coz it's a bit scary, and (c) a 4 x 4 mini doesn't have the same clearance as a landrover.
And don't get one because "they're safer and I'm not a great driver". Get advanced driving lessons instead. Please.

Lizcat · 12/06/2012 14:37

Love it and need it. You only have to check out the type of tyres they have to know who really needs it. If you off road regularly you need a much deeper tread tyre than most have. Also checked the quality of the mud mine is often very thick and mixed in with cow poo. When I give up my cow c-section days then I will do away with it.