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To think that if you can't remember to take your 8 year old home from the pub then you can't be trusted to run the country?

564 replies

PrettyPrinceofParties · 11/06/2012 07:44

www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2012/jun/11/david-cameron-daughter-behind-pub?newsfeed=true

OP posts:
wordfactory · 11/06/2012 11:10

Isn't this just a case of
'I thought she was with you'
'And I thought she was with you.'

Sirzy · 11/06/2012 11:12

No word don't be daft. If it was us lot it would be but they have to be judged for everything they do! They can't just make a parental fuck up like we all do from time to time.

Northernlurker · 11/06/2012 11:13

'if you are with your kids anywhere, for us anyhow, their whereabouts come first'

Gosh, thanks for pointing that out. The rest of us just herd as many children as we can find in to a car and hope to hell we've got them all.
Hmm

ThisLittleTeddyBear · 11/06/2012 11:13

I'd like to think I'd never lose or forget a child. BUT, I say that as the mother of a 1yo constantly-watched-by-me pfb. By the time you have several children and they have a little independence (i.e. an 8yo taking herself to the loo), I bet it becomes easier to imagine how this can happen.

I know someone who moved house, only realising she had left her 11mth old DD in the old house when they got to the new one. It sounds like a horrendous case of neglect- but actually she was the youngest of four DC, the parents had a car each both with a carseat in, the cars were loaded to bursting as well as the van, the DD was playing in an empty room with her 4yo brother who wandered off to watch the van being loaded, leaving the baby to curl up on the floor and fall asleep! Both parents thought the other had her. They are lovely and responsible parents, and they made a mistake. I can't imagine at the moment how you could let it happen, but happen it did, to otherwise very experienced and vigilant parents when they were under stress.

DC and SamC made a parenting mistake. I think we should focus on his political mistakes when assessing his fitness to run the country.

duchesse · 11/06/2012 11:14

I think it's rather nice that these children can have such a "normal" upbringing- having pub lunches with parents' friends in large group, getting left behind etc. I'd expect the atmostphere around them to be so much more rarified and tense.

rhondajean · 11/06/2012 11:15

To an earlier point - I think when they say he drive, he wasn't actually driving, it's just a turn of phrase - after the bottle or so of wine I hope not!

I actually don't mind dc but this was a relatively serious security lapse - of course a lot of parents leave children - I'm not so concerned at his parenting as the inability to organise security. Did no one see that c4 film last year where the pm's daughter was kidnapped??

rhondajean · 11/06/2012 11:16

Oh but I would still kill my dh if he did it.

Belleflowers · 11/06/2012 11:18

northern Biscuit

Northernlurker · 11/06/2012 11:18

As an aside can I point out that it is possible for a parent to forget to drop a young child at nursery or childminder, drive to work and leave the child in the car. This has happened and it has had tragic consequences. DO NOT THINK that your superior parenting will save you from this. If you have a lengthy commute with a child then make sure you always put their bag or coat on the passenger seat next to you so that you have a visual prompt of their presence because if they fall asleep and if you are under stress and/or tired and if something puts you out of your routine and you drive to work not childcare you could leave the child in the car.

Rockpool · 11/06/2012 11:19

Belle my kids whereabouts always come.Dp and I do nothing but think about the dc when out and about.Kids are kids though and it's natural to be curious or to think at 8/9 you'll just wander off for a min.I'd worry if any kid at that age stayed permanently glued to their mother's side.

Also don't forget like us they have 3, as parents they're outnumbered

Belleflowers · 11/06/2012 11:20

we're all backing them up by saying oh it could happen to anyone, lots of us have done it

NO

even if we have done it, not myself personally - YET - it was prob because it was just DH, kids and us

but the cmerons in the pub, with security - and NO ONE did a headcount???????

nuts

ReelAroundTheFountain · 11/06/2012 11:21

I reaaly wanted to be IdreamtaboutyoulastnightandIfelloutofbedtwice but thought it was a tad long.

Yes please to roll call. DH leaves the room when The Smiths are on as he can't stand me saying "Oh this is a brilliant song" a thousand times an hour Grin

Belleflowers · 11/06/2012 11:22

i've never forgotten my kid anyhwere!

i've left my handbag on top of the car and driven off, or left my keys in the front door

but my kid? left it behind?

some people treat their pets with more thought

slag me off if you like, but this is the PM's kid ffs

wordfactory · 11/06/2012 11:22

duchess I would imagine it's essential to try to maintain some sort of semblence of normal family life.

Belleflowers · 11/06/2012 11:24

I've crossed the world numerous times with 2 kids under 3, and luggage

at no point, did my instincts tell me to switch off, to NOT have my kids whereabouts at the forefront of my mind, in cafes, restaurants, busy airports

if she needed the loo, why didnt someone go with her?

am i missing sthing here?

timetoask · 11/06/2012 11:24

It'll be one of those stories they tell their grandchildren and everyone will laugh about... it happens

KalSkirata · 11/06/2012 11:24

I have 4 and never managed to mislay one. But he has to be held to a higher standard. What if she was kidnapped? And him blackmailed? What about security? (perhaps he was using workfare like at the Jubilee Wink)

Belleflowers · 11/06/2012 11:25

just wish he would wise up and behave like Obama or sthing - stop trying to be so normal, and COOOL

eugh

JenaiMarrHePlaysGuitar · 11/06/2012 11:26

some people treat their pets with more thought

Some lunatics do possibly, yes.

How old are your children, Belle?

Sirzy · 11/06/2012 11:28

Are people seriously questioning allowing an 8 year old to go to the toilet alone? Really? Why not just keep your child on reigns until they turn 18

Belleflowers · 11/06/2012 11:28

age of my kids is irrelevant jenai

if he left his dog behind, ...no hang on, someone would have checked where the dog was first, before leaving, surely

but it's ok to leave the kid? because we've all done it?

bollox

JenaiMarrHePlaysGuitar · 11/06/2012 11:28

ah, x-posts.

Why would an 8-yo need accompanying to the loo? Granted slightly different for the child of a PM, and I agree that there was a security lapse, but as a rule 8-yos go to the ladies alone, surely Confused

Belleflowers · 11/06/2012 11:29

sirzy - an 8yr old girl going to the pub toilet

is ok?

and she is the PM's kid?

if I were samcam, I'd go with her. just would. yes, she may be 8, but who could be watching her heading off by herself? anyone in the pub? oh but everyone is lovely in a country pub. NO. it is not worth taking that chance for a split second.

not worth it at all

Northernlurker · 11/06/2012 11:30

'if she needed the loo, why didnt someone go with her?'

Because she's 8 and it's good parenting to encourage your children to start to manage for themselves and not have you hovering over them lest kidnappers lurk in every toilet cubicle. Will that get me another Biscuit. I was thrilled with the last one. Really contributes to the debate.

Sirzy · 11/06/2012 11:30

Of course the age of your kids is relevant. My DS is 2.5 so of course he is always next to me, by the age of 8 that's unrealistic.

Parenting challenges change as your children get older/you have more children. That's without taking the individual child into account to. That's why it's always best to be a bit more open minded than "never happened to me so shouldn't happen to anyone"