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To worry that my marriage may be in trouble?

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MegumiEto · 30/05/2012 10:31

I don't think my DH will walk out, but I don't think he is very happy.

The past couple of months, he has not been himself. He's been very quiet, quite irritable, and keen to spend time by himself and with friends.

Last night I talked to him about it, and he admitted that he hadn't been happy lately. He said he was sick of struggling and working hard for no reward and no hope of ever not struggling.

We have been through a tough time in recent years. DH had worked for a family-run business, made the old couple who ran it a lot of money, was treated like a member of the family and then suddenly made redundant. After this, our house was repossessed and we got into financial trouble. He has gone self employed, but it took him some time to build his business up, and of course the money is never regular.

BUT, over the last year, we have really sorted ourselves out. We moved into a flat, paid off the money we owed and we're not in any more debt. We don't have a lavish lifestyle, but we don't do bad. We have an X Box, Lovefilm and Netflix subscriptions, broadband, a couple of PCs we built ourselves, a reasonable car, he has three guitars and a couple of amps, plus a kayak and a load of camping and outdoor gear.

He certainly doesn't want for hobbies - he's in two bands, plus he has a guitar lesson every week and a kung fu lesson (which cost £40 per week), plus he goes running with my mum twice a week in the evenings and an exercise bike in the shed to keep fit. The kayaking he does mostly in the summer, but it often involves an overnight camp too.

I don't mind any of this, btw. If we couldn't afford it, I know he'd stop straight away, and I understand that he works hard and needs to blow off steam. Being self employed, it's pretty tough to take holidays, and he hasn't had any time off in about 3 years, so I know this is an equivalent.

But last night he started talking about things he wished he'd done. He and a mate had a plan to go hiking in Africa when they were younger, and he wished he'd done that. He also wished he'd joined the Marines too, he'd been a cadet and had really wanted to carry on and didn't (not because of me, this is way before I met him).

This has been exacerbated by the fact that I have had a tremendous opportunity recently to pursue a lifelong dream of mine, one that could potentially make us a lot of money. Although I don't have to leave the house, I have had to work very hard on it from home, and consequently have relied on DH to help with the housework more than I normally would. I just don't have time to meet a deadline, look after two small boys and do the house too. Sometimes he gets pretty grumpy about this and tells me I should "make time" which really pisses me off.

I have noticed a marked drop in the amount of time we spend together as a family too. We used to go to town on a Saturday to bank the money he'd made, and afterwards we'd take DS1 to the park or for a walk in the woods. Now, every Saturday, he says he'll just nip in by himself as it's quicker. This is true, with DS2 (8m) in a buggy and DS1 (3) being a bit of a handful lately, but it does mean that I don't get out of the house much. As a SAHM, the kids are always my responsibility and it would be nice to have a couple of hours a week where this was shared. It's the same with the supermarket, I can't remember the last time I didn't just send DH off with a list.

I know there are plenty of women out there who would love a DH who did the shopping by himself but I am starting to feel a bit stuck in the house. But because he is so unhappy, i am reluctant to put pressure on him to take me along.

Not sure that a gentle approach is the right thing, but I really don't want to go in all guns blazing and lay the law down if it's going to make him miserable. What's the point?

Should I just let things be and see if they improve, or should I push this?

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Shelby2010 · 30/05/2012 10:49

Couple of practical suggestions 1) do the main shopping on the Internet & get it delivered, 2) get a cleaner a couple of hours a week.

MegumiEto · 30/05/2012 12:32

Thank you. Cleaner seems like a luxury, can anytone give me a ballpark figure of how much that would cost? And do they wash up? LOL

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Nanny0gg · 30/05/2012 12:39

So, your time off is when?
Your family time is when?

He seems to be holding all the balls in his court and he's unhappy?

PandaWatch · 30/05/2012 12:42

Have you expressed what you've put in your post to your DH? I think that's a definite first step. Can you get someone to babysit so you can have a couple of hours alone together to talk over how you're feeling?

BettySwollocksandaCrustyRack · 30/05/2012 12:43

I agree with nanny

You seem to be dancing to his tune so why is he miserable?

Mid life crisis??

Sometimes we all wish we had done things when we were younger but he didnt....get over it........he needs to focus on all the good in his life, and it sounds like he lives pretty well to me!

MainlyMaynie · 30/05/2012 12:44

So his unhappiness coincides precisely with the timing of you having the opportunity to fulfill a dream? In a relationship where usually everything is about him?

MegumiEto · 30/05/2012 12:45

Well, that's what I thought when he was talking last night. I was really surprised. That's what makes me think that he's probably saying these things because he's not happy being with me.

We have been together five years, but DS1 was a bit of an accident so perhaps deep down he feels as though he didn't have a choice.

I don't understand what more he wants, apart from more freedom. He can have anything he wants, we always save up for stuff if he really fancies it.

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BillyBollyBandy · 30/05/2012 12:47

My cleaner is £8 ph and worth her weight in gold, she also irons.

Agree with Nanny, when is your time off?

MegumiEto · 30/05/2012 12:48

Yes, it does seem like a bit of a coincidence about my opportunity doesn't it.

Now that I think about it, he auditioned for another band recently, one he really wanted to get into, and they went with someone else. Maybe that's part of it too.

He enjoys his music, but it's only something he's started lately so I wouldn't say he had a burning desire to be a successful musician.

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thebody · 30/05/2012 12:49

How old is he??? Midlife crisis?? Is he depressed do you think?? Sometimes when life is really stressful, like yours was, it's hits you hard afterwards when things are better.

You need to perhaps re connect as a couple, weekend away together is that possible??

MissFaversham · 30/05/2012 12:49

Sounds like he's taking "selfish" stock of things at the moment OP.

theboutiquemummy · 30/05/2012 12:49

MegumiEto wow well done on your new opportunity and for hauling your arse out of debt that must have taken some going so hats off to you for making it through that.

I think perhaps he's having a bit of a hard time because of your opportunity and he may well be looking for reassurance that the family and him is still your priority hence the sulking about cleaning etc.

It seems like you have made many concessions to keep him happy, since his redundancy that you've forgotten yourself in the mix.

You can't do everything keep the lines of communication well and truly open certainly look into getting a cleaner you'll pay about £20 for a couple of hours of hoovering and general cleaning so 4 hrs a weeks £40 same as him for his hobbies, and maybe you could negotiate for some extra childcare will your mum so you have clear time to focus on your work and maybe yourself.

Good Luck dealing with change is never easy at least you are trying.

MegumiEto · 30/05/2012 12:49

ohhhh BillyBollyBandy .... ironing? I'd forgotten what that was like! And £8 is surprisingly reasonable. I'd want a lot more than that to do someone else's housework!

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brightonlights · 30/05/2012 12:50

It sounds like you having your dream has made him resentful of not having his. All those tit bits of fun he has probably don't compare to the thrill of the adventure in his head. But ultimately, these are the decision we make as husbands/ wives/ parents... You can't make it be enough for him if it's not - he needs to make a choice. And no, I don't think he'll make it without a shove from you!!!

Mandy2003 · 30/05/2012 12:52

I agree with Nanny too. Are you thinking of expanding your own business so that you will be renting some premises? It seems to me that you are so home-based now which can make anyone feel oppressed.

Regarding your DH, presumably the redundancy was a huge blow both financially and to his self-esteem which probably made him think harder about all the things he didn't do when he was younger. It sounds like you are both doing really well now, but I imagine the shock of the redundancy has lingered. I don't know what to suggest there, sorry.

I work as a cleaner, I charge £8.00 per hour and I will do washing up if required! I can't think any cleaner wouldn't. Also you might be able to get a bit of babysitting from you cleaner too, once you've built up a working relationship with her/him?

MrsHelsBels74 · 30/05/2012 12:52

How old is your husband?

I don't think there are many people who can look at their life & think 'yes, this is exactly what I wanted'.

I'm not trying to belittle how your husband is feeling at all, but to be honest he doesn't sound that hard done by...I think you need him to be honest about what he's unhappy about.

brightonlights · 30/05/2012 12:53

Yes, ours is £20 a week for 2 hours cleaning and ironing all DH's shirts. Considering the number one cause of arguement in domestic relationships is housework I think it's worth it.
And online shopping too. About £3 a week.. Or do what I do and get your monthly shop online then get your fresh bits each week. Supermarkets are certainly not quality family time!!

bakingaddict · 30/05/2012 12:54

Ditto what Shelby said also get him to take kids out on a Sunday morning, local swimming pool, park, cinema etc. Lots of things for him to do with them. Understand he might need a bit of time for his hobbies being self employed but he also needs to be a father to your DC's

flatpackhamster · 30/05/2012 12:56

Sounds like a midlife crisis to me.

brightonlights · 30/05/2012 13:00

What are these hobbies you all speak of... Confused

MegumiEto · 30/05/2012 13:16

DH is 33 and has had quite a tough life even as a kid (his mum died and his dad wasn't interested in him after that) so he's always really enjoyed being part of a family for the first time.

Until recently he's doted on our boys, but as I mentioned before, DS1 has been a terror lately and has been really tough to manage when we're out and in company, so we haven't bothered much.

I have been a bit cross about the imbalance in childcare at the weekends, particularly now I'm working so hard on my project. DS2 is quite a clingy baby and breastfed so it's a given that he stays with me, but when DH has taken DS1 out for me, he's come back after 20 mins on a pretext every time.

When he's here, he spends his time either watching TV or doing housework while moaning at me for not doing it, asking how the place gets in such a state!

It's not that bad, btw, mostly toys and food/crumbs on the floor from baby mealtimes! I think it's just lived-in, certainly nothing's DIRTY.

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FetchezLaVache · 30/05/2012 13:36

"He said he was sick of struggling and working hard for no reward and no hope of ever not struggling."

"I have had a tremendous opportunity recently to pursue a lifelong dream of mine, one that could potentially make us a lot of money."

Then he needs to support you in this venture! Quite apart from the fact that it's a dream of yours, this is surely your most likely opportunity not to keep on struggling, as a family?

MainlyMaynie · 30/05/2012 13:41

Why don't you repost on Relationships? I think you have issues with your DH that won't be solved by getting a cleaner i.e. he is extremely selfish. There are people on Relationships who can help better than me though!

BratinghamPalace · 30/05/2012 13:50

You can have the "chat" in a very gentle way. But you must have the chat as now you are being quite passive, even though I understand that you are doing it for him. Acknowledge him. It is shit that the employers dropped him and at what cost for him. And let that stand, no showing the upside or trying to make it good. You can't and it is shit. Let him live that (for a while!). At the same time book in x hours every x day or evening for you, fixed. And continue like that, a mix of gentle and firm. one step at a time. Good Luck

MegumiEto · 30/05/2012 15:08

Fetchezlavache That's what I thought! For some reason, this doesn't count as an opportunity for him, he said last night his only hope was winning the lottery. That rang alarm bells for me. Maybe he doesn't see us being together that far in the future? Or maybe he doesn't think I can pull it off. Either way is pretty bad.

I've worked so hard to get us back out of debt. I'm so relieved not to have sleepless nights about money any more and he wants MORE? I'm increasingly annoyed about that.

I think I will repost in Relationships, that does seem like an appropriate place. Thanks!

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