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The answer to our private/grammar/state school angst

201 replies

Shagmundfreud · 29/05/2012 11:39

Remove the charitable status of private schools, as this only benefits those children who would be educationally successful where ever they were schooled.

Abolish grammar schools.

Abolish external selection.

All schools to be truly comprehensive. Places allocated by lottery to get rid of post-code selection. School buses to get round transport problems. Highly structured streaming so that the brightest children could work at a fast pace, unhindered by thick or badly behaved pupils holding them back.

But all children to mingle outside class time.

And lots of one to one support for students who are working hard to move up through the streams, to support educational and social mobility.

Maximum of 20 in each class.

Teachers allocated to teach the bottom sets would receive extra money, training and support, and more non-contact time for lesson preparation.

You likey?

OP posts:
seeker · 31/05/2012 11:11

But it would explain PooshTun not appearing to understand quite simple words like "citizen"

TheOriginalSteamingNit · 31/05/2012 11:13

Oh, er, I did some wee in my pants and a sick in my mouth of naice ham and it was vair vair bad or something.

seeker · 31/05/2012 11:23

Well, it's pretty fucking depressing to realise that you have been trying to engage with a wind up merchant for a couple of days. Our only consolation is that at least we're not such pathetic losers as said wind-up merchants. We at least were trying to do something interesting and potentially useful. She/they are just forgettable river slime.

PooshTun · 31/05/2012 11:37

"So this whole thread is a colossal wind up? Fuck"

Oooh! Somebody didn't like the "Suffering from a sense of humour has my vote" remark. :o

"We at least were trying to do something interesting"

I don't think that you pontificating on what is wrong with the education system and how pizza servers should have a GCSE in Latin quite qualifies as doing "something interesting".

TheOriginalSteamingNit · 31/05/2012 11:39

So what was the sense of humour thing about? I don't get where you were trying to be funny?

seeker · 31/05/2012 11:49

Look. People behave as if they don't know what a word means. It seems bizarre that they wouldn't know what it means so it is normal to check whethernyou have missed a joke.

PooshTun- you told me I had missed the joke.

It is a reasonable assumption that there was a joke- otherwise I couldn't have missed it.

Oh, and I have explained several times what I mean by it being important that everyone in society has a good education. You persist in saying that I am claiming that pizza delivery people should have GCSE Latin. Why?

TheOriginalSteamingNit · 31/05/2012 11:53

Probably another example of the famous Poosh sense of humour...

seeker · 31/05/2012 12:03

Is she a name changer?

PooshTun · 31/05/2012 12:13

If you need me to explain the joke about you not having a sense of humour then that kind of makes my point doesn't it?

As for the other bit, you haven't explained it several times. All you've done is repeat the same sound bite several times and when asked to elaborate all you do is dodge the question and say its obvious what you meant.

seeker · 31/05/2012 12:16

So pretending that you don't know what "comprehensive" means is funny?

I notice that you are studiously voiding the other thread- you're obvipusly having much more fun misquoting me on here.

TheOriginalSteamingNit · 31/05/2012 12:17

So you say someone has a sense of humour failure, and that is the joke? There's no particular joke that you see that person as having failed to appreciate? Just, it's a joke to say 'you have a sense of humour failure'?

Right oh.

PooshTun · 31/05/2012 12:23

seeker - There wasn't much point carrying on with the other thread because all you did was ignore my questions and repeated the same sound bites.

Don't you think its kind of pathetic coming here and complaining that I am ignoring you elsewhere?

TheOriginalSteamingNit · 31/05/2012 12:27

what is this latin pizza thread?

PooshTun · 31/05/2012 12:28

Nit - (come on, when you chose your I'd you must have realised that this day would come).

Why is it ok for you to say you don't want your kid to go to same school as mine but its NOT ok for someone to say they don't their kid to go to same one as yours?

PooshTun · 31/05/2012 12:31

Look in AIBU under AIBU to not care if the pizza guy has GCSE Latin

TheOriginalSteamingNit · 31/05/2012 12:33

The name is a quotation, and nit is fine!

That's a really silly opposition. Your school excludes people on the basis of wealth whether they'd like to go there or not. It wouldn't let mine in if I wanted them to be there.

My children's school is open to everyone, and if they get full up they take the nearest ones first. I wouldn't want my children to go to any private school because I disagree with that as a system of education.

SoupDragon · 31/05/2012 12:44

"Do people genuinely not know what "comprehensive" means when applied to a school"

Do people genuinely not understand sarcasm or humour when they see it?

SoupDragon · 31/05/2012 12:45

BTW, I know exactly what comprehensive means when applied to a school because I went to one.

TheOriginalSteamingNit · 31/05/2012 12:46

soupdragon I did assume that you were joking on the last page - I'm just not sure where poosh made her joke.

seeker · 31/05/2012 13:35

TOSN- I said that I thought it was important that everyone in society has a good education. PooshTun has taken this to mean that I think pizza delivery men should have GSCE Latin and would be better at their job if they did. She has chosen to ignore repeatedly my explanation that I believe that it is to the benefit of society at large if it has well educated citizens, and to ignore my further explanation of this belief. Her famous sense of humour is so tickled by the idea of pizza delivery men parsing Catullus that she is unable to let the joke go.

Mopswerver · 31/05/2012 13:58

I'm not against my children mixing with rich kids, I'm against my kids being prevented from mixing with poor kids. I think it's important for them to be at home in any company and to have an understanding of the kinds of difficulties some children face. Some private Ed parents claim that their DCs mix with non private ed kids at after school activities but most of the poor kids I know don't go to those. One of my DD's best friends is in Foster care and another classmates parents are very poor but are lovely salt of the earth people who are always involved in school/community events. She would probably know neither if she went to PS and personally I think she would be the poorer for that.

TheOriginalSteamingNit · 31/05/2012 14:07

Mop - well said.

Seeker - ah, so what you are saying, if I've read your post correctly, which I think I have because I had my tongue sticking out in earnest concentration and squinted hard at the screen, is..... you think pizza delivery boys should all know Latin? Why do you think that? That would just be silly! Wink

seeker · 31/05/2012 14:10

No. I think they should have to learn Latin, because they will deliver pizzas faster. You just don't get it, do you?

TheOriginalSteamingNit · 31/05/2012 14:13

It would be funny, though, wouldn't it, if a pizza delivery man was clever? Imagine, right, if you had, like, someone in a relatively low-paid job, but they also knew some stuff! lolz.

SoupDragon · 31/05/2012 17:27

Most of the pizza delivery drivers I get are not a product of the UK education system. I have no idea whether they were taught Latin at school but they were certainly taught a second language (English) at some point.