To feel like Im playing God as to weather to give my baby the MMR?

[WhiteTrashed]

I need to start by saying this has nothing to do with the 'link to autism' that has been feared.

It has got to do with fucking allergies again so if youre sick to the back teeth of my aibu/wtf am I doing allergy related threads look away now.

Basically, 12 months old baby anaphylactic to milk, eggs and other stuff.

He was fine until his baby set of immunisations, the third lot sent his immune system crazy and all of a sudden developed allergies. I decided this and put ut to the allergy specialist who agreed, but said if it hadnt been that it'd been something else (for example, an illness).

This was recently proved after a particularly nasty virus, he developed an allergy to the actual virus, new food allergies (that he was ok with) and an allergy to the cold (cold wind, cold taps = hives and swelling where it touches, had to leave the park 2-3 weeks back as his face started swelling and he had hives everywhere because the wind was nippy).

Anyway, now we're to the MMR if he gets M, M or R he'll get ill AND send his immune system crazy. If he has the vaccine we risk that too.

So we crompamise by giving it individually, we a nice space so's not to over do his immune system.

I spoke to a private practice this morning and found out the dont do individual Mumps any more.

So I have a choice, give him the MMR and risk him getting even more allergies or just give him measles and rubella, leaving mumps which can be pretty bad for boys/mens fertility AND be risking his immune system going crazy with it.

My allergy specialist just cant tell me, he doesnt know which is often the way with allergies. Which I fucking hate.

Anyway, thats it really, AIBU always put things in perspective for me and Im feeling really lost and down with this at the moment.

Or post it in chat. >sigh<

This was meant for AIBU admin can you move it please?

Can anyone tell me how to message admin?

You can give M and R and reassess at puberty if he hasn't caught it. It's not as serious on younger boys as post-puberty.

I don't know whether that helps your decision? I'm very nervous about giving MMR due to allergies too.

Oh and just report your thread. Done it for you.

Thanks for reporting.

Are you worried for the same reason fakiosaurus?

no experience, what if you give the 2 that are available individually, and then give the MMR to get mumps bit?
Would that reduce the immune loading as 2 will be pre seen infections? Would you be allowed to do this?

nextphase Im not sure. Id be very reluctant to give him both of the vaccines and the MMR but I see what youre saying.

I think giving him both and crossing the mumps road pre teens might have to be the answer.

Its totally up to you.
you can get them done separately but it costs a fair bit which is disgusting but I did 'because the autism link affected a family member awaits flaming

What are the figures for cases of mumps nowadays? When I was a child we all caught the various diseases, measles, rubella, whooping cough, scarlet fever, chicken pox, you name it and someone had it on any given day. Whole classes at school would be decimated across a month-6 weeks as something "went round". The only thing I can't remember any of us catching was mumps oddly enough.
I know there've been increases in measles etc, as less people have immunised their DCs (we lose "herd immunity below a certain % take up of the immunisations) but has this happened for mumps? It might be worth weighing up, with your doctors, the chances of him getting mumps even if he isn't immunised against it, and seeing just how likely it is, then making the decision.

Can the gps not do them separately if to do otherwise would be a risk? I thought they had some room to do that?

Pretty much the same reason. I have severe multiple allergies, DS is quite sensitive to things and gets hives in response to all sorts of things but no anaphylaxis yet.

I don't know what to do either. Doubly difficult because in Drance he can't go to nursery unless either I get a doctor to agree it would be a bad idea or give it to him. Our paed is not very sympathetic even though he says the risk of reaction is high.

Oh, I remember my Gp saying about the possibility of getting blood tests at the hospital to see if they had a natural immunity to any of the 3. Although blood tests are not fun.

pombear I hear you, DP and myself both had mumps as a child which makes me feel a bit better. More so that he said he had it (i.e male and fertility).

noqontrol GP said they dont offer the seperately. Ds will be having yearly bloods taken from November, so I will keep in mind about testing for immunity against the virus's I never would have thought of that, thank you.

Frakio ask to be referred to a different hospital, and to a paediatric allergy specialist. We saw some seriously crap in Brighton general, I asked to try Eastbourne and saw an excellent consultant (rather than the consultant sending along his Tea Bitch which is what Brighton Royal did).

DD has had the MMR, she has severe CMP allergy. She was fine.

Rubella clearly poses less risk to your DS, as he is unlikely to get pregnant! But out of interest are you immune to rubella? This may be a pertinent point as you don't want DS to give you Rubella during a second pregnancy.

Measles probably poses the most risk to your DS & you could consider (if fiances allow) giving him the single vaccination for this. Not giving MMR now does not mean never giving MMR, but could be something you could reconsider when he is a little older & may have grown out of some of his allergies.

Difficult decision for you, I appreciate that & despite what I have said above I am generally very pro vaccination.

i have given my allergic son all his jabs.

I know for certain that he is not allergic due to jabs at all.
He showed 3 signs of food allergy before the age of 3 months, and comes from a highly atopic family. In fact the first sign of being an allergic person started about day 10 after birth.

Hives from virus are common, and again are due to a immature immune system, and age plays a part in this, its very common in children who are not ige allergic in any form.

My son follows the atopic march, and as he grew older he developed more food allergies, his skin improved at 5 but also began as in the known pattern to get higher levels of sensitivity to his enviromental allergies, such as tree pollen.

I consider my child to have been more at risk when he had his jabs when the nurse tried to shove a chocolate in his mouth to take his mind of the pain (I complained, btw!) with out my permission or checking to make sure he had allergies.

We had the jabs because I have a cousin of my age with brain damage from whooping cough. An aunt who has poor eye sight and deformed spine due to her mother catching rubella during pregnancy.

so just be aware that not everything is the cause of jabs.

Thanks toobreathless. I think if he just had a milk allergy I would be giving him the full MMR no problem. Its all the resr that has shown me hus body wouldnt cope. We were wondering whether we needed to give him rubella, I hear thats one thats for the gopd of the community rather than himself so perhaps that one can wait until hes older. Hes my DS2 Im not sure if I' have any more, but I guess Id have to test my immunity if I wanted a third.

I too am very pro vaccine which is making this decision all the harder.

White trashed, complications from mumps are quite rare in childhood (over 1/3 of cases are completely asymptomatic). In post-pubescent males there is a risk of orchitis (swelling of one or both testicles) but according to the HPA, there is no firm evidence that orchitis causes sterility. I hope this helps to reassure you a bit about mumps itself.

Tbh I wouldn't worry too much about getting a single rubella for him either given the risk of the vaccine itself for him.Again, it's a very mild illness in childhood and only really a risk to non-immune pregnant women in early pregnancy. I don't think anyone would suggest you risk a vaccine that could cause an anaphylactic reaction simply for the benefit of someone else. Well, I don't think they would but MN can be a bit strange sometimes

I would ask to be referred but we're already seeing the paeds allergy specialist for the island. We're moving next month back to the mainland so will step it up then and prob find someone in Paris.

There is no 'right' decision really. Just marginally less wrong ones. And I'm also quite pro vaccinations in general.

Hi WhiteTrashed, this place in Nottingham appears to do separate mumps vaccines. Not sure whereabouts you are?

A quick google brought these up, so I would think there would be others.

Or you can just wait - My son is now 2.5 and not had the mmr yet, at 12 months when it was due he was going through a lot of tests - allergy tests and then cystic fibrosis tests etc - so the plan was to wait till 18 months for his immune system to be fully/more developed (most children it is fully developed at 18months, but of course exceptions) we then booked it in at 19 months and he had a rash/virus- but no temp - hence me taking him and the duty doctor was called to see him in the imms clinic to decide what to do, her words were - dont touch it, until he is well, really well, again this is nothing to do with the autism link, but the link to if you vaccine with a low immune or compromised immune system on occasion side affects can occur - so at 24 months my number 2 was due and I wanted it done to protect him and newborn etc - but again he was ill - he is very sensitive, does seem to spend all winter getting most things and has reactions to various things - since the sun has been shining he has had heat rash for 4 days despite piriton....- but confirmed allergy to milk, soya, tomatos and dust mites... but anytime he has been to the hospital no doc has blinked at the fact he has n't had it yet.... BUT we are low risk, in other words he is at home with me rather than in nursery, we are also very rural and there have been no local outbreaks of measles - so the delay has been fine -

my long rant/post is meant to just reassure you at 12 months you are still fine, you can wait, it used to be 14 months anyway, also you can ask for it do be done on the ward if you are worried about a reaction and also seperate to the other 12/12 month jabs as the MMR alone is a lot.....

I am not anti and he will have it in September pre: nursery/pre-school but for us the timing has not been right so far....and I am grateful for that approach -

My daughter (5) had singles, and hasn't had the mumps, can't find it anywhere?

I'm not worrying about it to be honest?

Thank you all for your reasurrance. I really expected to be told to get over myself and just give him the full MMR.

Arion, until fairly recently a lot of places did mumps singularly, Google still says they do (possibly not been updated) but ut has stopped being made.

I'll definitely not worry about mumps for a few years in this case, give him the measles jab pray to God its all fine and leave the rubella.

Hope it all goes ok for you whitetrashed. :)

Whereabouts in the country are you? As an earlier poster mentioned, depending on where you are and whether or not he's at nursery he could be low risk for exposure so you could potentially delay it for a little while if you don't feel entirely comfortable yet.

His 'Tea Bitch'??