To think displine in schools has got so low

[Mrbojangles1]

AIBU to think this boys parents have a lot to answer for as well as the boy himself.

And yes I will say it I think he most likey got the drugs from his parents or a older sibling

I have read many threads on here were people think smoking weed is fine and their oh are regular drug users and they don't see the issue

I am not overly shocked usually but I think this is just awful

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2149865/Six-pupils-taken-hospital-boy-14-spikes-cakes-cannabis-cookery-class.html

YANBU to be shocked by that story, but YABU to presume that this is somehow indicative of the level of discipline in schools in general.

I doubt he got the drugs from anyone other than his local dealer.

Discipline in schools reflects discipline at home. If DC are not taught appropriate behaviour at home then they wont have the resources to behave properly in school. A good home can compensate for most deficiencies in a school but no school can combat the problems caused by a neglectful home.

Yeah, I didn't understand the relevance of the title to the OP.

It's about the fact he thought so little of what would happen to him, he went ahead not scared not worried knowing that teachers can most likey do nothing very much doubut he will be even kicked out.

And wil
Smiling in the face of the cookery teacher in the next lesson

I think he should be facing criminal charges spikeing people with drugs is very serious

Well I doubt that the school condoned the behaviour or enabled it in any way!

Unless the Home Ec teacher supplied the weed thinking it was a herb ...

And to echo thegreylady, a lot of the most troublesome pupils are coming from very disrupted and chaotic home lives.

School can do a certain amount but they only spend 18% of their time in school.

"very much doubut he will be even kicked out."

At least read the article you linked to

"The year nine pupil who is accused of smuggling the drugs into school was arrested and later expelled."

But the police are involved - how do you know he won't face charges of some kind?

Did I miss something?

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Wow, surely this can't be the first time dodgy chocolate brownies have been baked at a school?

I don't condone cannabis use at all. However, it certainly isn't the first time a teenager has been expelled for having drugs on school premises.

Teenagers will be teenagers, at least he was being generous and shared the goodies with his (willing) friends. I don't think he should be expelled for his silliness, only violent bullies should be expelled.

Daughter of a friend of mine was expelled for supplying weed. Her mum (who I didn't know let me add v quickly!) was growing weed and this lass took some into school and tried to sell it.

Fast forward 10 years and she has a little girl of her own and she has the gall to tell everyone she wants to move because she doesn't want her children gonig to the local schools because of 'drugs and bullying' etc.

Really bobbledunk?
My Aspie loves chocolate brownies, have you ever looked at any studies of the effects of drugs on those who are on the spectrum and how the consequences are often much more severe than with an NT?
He should be expelled, and then given support to recognise the recklessness of what he did,
And yes, I've eaten many an Alice B Toklas brownie back in my hippy days.

When teenagers leave their front door their loving parents are forgotten about. You can't always blame the parents, that's so wrong!

bit like standards of written english, spelling and grammar IMO

But you can't always blame schools either Vev - as I said earlier, pupils only spend 18% of their time in school
It's mostly what ever else is going on in their lives that can create problems.

And by the way I'm not saying it's the parents to blame. Sometimes they are at their wit's end too.

What's school discipline got to do with it? A 14 year old brings in drugs from outside and decides to be a prat in the cookery lesson.Idiot boy.

Daughter of a friend of mine was expelled for supplying weed. Her mum (who I didn't know let me add v quickly!) was growing weed and this lass took some into school and tried to sell it.

Sorry-am I being realy stupid, I don't understand this post! Your friend's daughter was expelled for supplying week but you didn't know her mum? Surely her mum was your friend?

The school called paramedics, the police, and expelled the boy.

Where is the lack of discipline?

A boys was stupid. Very stupid. Kids, if you are going to bake hash brownies, do it at home.

Not surprised around there tbh

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I used to teach there before it became a college.

I am not shocked at the incident.

This is not really a discipline issue technically, unless the pupils are searched (legally a grey area for teachers) upon entry to the school in the morning, or the food technology teacher stood over every single pupil (impossible) this would never have been prevented from a staffing point of view.

It does however have more to do with the level of respect and validity given to attending school by students ie they knew what the consequences would be in expulsion. Instilling respect in students who come from backgrounds where there are sequential generations of unemployment, low aspirations and educational achievement is extremely difficult.

So I agree the bitty and his parents have a lot to answer for but I would also add it is part of a wider problem. The catchment area has higher levels of deprivation and social problems.

Incidentally and not related it is not far from where Raol Moat came from and shot the policeman.

bit like standards of written english, spelling and grammar IMO

or do you mean English?

How's it the school's fault?

Never come across a school that permitted drug taking on school premises, or condoned the use of drugs out of school either?

Most schools devote more time than they should (cos it diverts from the 3R's) trying to teach children that drugs are BAAAAD, very BAAAAD & they should "just say no" for reasons of health and legality. Schools teach this despite all the bombardment from wider society that drugs are cool, the route to quick riches for the poor etc, etc. Some schools teach drug awareness despite the best efforts of the drug-using parents of the pupils concerned. WTF else do you want schools to do?

Kid done wrong, kid was caught, kid kicked out! Kid will be subject to due criminal process as a result of the schools actions.

(So an example hereby set for any other little monsters that might be tempted to subvert a cookery lesson from the defined parameters of the national curriculum in future).

Teenagers are by definition feral little monsters and it takes the combined efforts of parents, teachers and the wider community to keep them in line till they surface from the adolescent hormonal fug as rational adults.

I have an awful lot of complaints with the current education system, & a lot of issues with current drug legislation - but I can't for the life of me see how this incident is the fault of anyone but the young person who chose to commit a criminal act on school premises. (By 14 school will have taught him that his actions were criminal).

Discipline in schools reflects discipline at home. If DC are not taught appropriate behaviour at home then they wont have the resources to behave properly in school. A good home can compensate for most deficiencies in a school but no school can combat the problems caused by a neglectful home.

Absolutely spot on. Couldn't have said it better.