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To think displine in schools has got so low

39 replies

Mrbojangles1 · 25/05/2012 15:49

AIBU to think this boys parents have a lot to answer for as well as the boy himself.

And yes I will say it I think he most likey got the drugs from his parents or a older sibling

I have read many threads on here were people think smoking weed is fine and their oh are regular drug users and they don't see the issue

I am not overly shocked usually but I think this is just awful

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2149865/Six-pupils-taken-hospital-boy-14-spikes-cakes-cannabis-cookery-class.html

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OTheHugeManatee · 25/05/2012 18:11

I'm with bochead on this one. Don't really see how the school could have done more.

But it makes a cracking Daily Bile harrumph Grin

FunnyLovesTheJubilee · 25/05/2012 22:08

no tarty I meant english. HTH

itdoesnthurttohavemanners · 25/05/2012 22:14

Discipline in schools reflects discipline at home. If DC are not taught appropriate behaviour at home then they wont have the resources to behave properly in school. A good home can compensate for most deficiencies in a school but no school can combat the problems caused by a neglectful home.

WELL SAID.

I think we're on a losing battle in schools ....parents these days come in and kick off at teachers because their little darlings have been told off/disciplined/shouted at etc.....Personally, I have no problem telling parents that their child WAS disruptive/rude/cocky, but I know a lot of teachers who can't handle the confrontation. In the 'good ol' days, you'd get told off by your teacher, and then get a clout at home too!!! Bring those days back! :)

ilovesooty · 25/05/2012 23:59

Discipline in schools reflects discipline at home. If DC are not taught appropriate behaviour at home then they wont have the resources to behave properly in school. A good home can compensate for most deficiencies in a school but no school can combat the problems caused by a neglectful home

Absolutely. I don't think this is a "school discipline" issue either.
Still, people like the OP will fall for the DM's lazy journalism and make uninformed comments as a result.

kiwimumof2boys · 26/05/2012 06:00

Well at least the kid knows about sharing :)

ComposHat · 26/05/2012 06:11

Seems a silly prank rather than a malicious act.

Seems a bit heavy handed to expel and prosecute him for knocking up a bit of space cake and then sharing it with hid mates.

marriedinwhite · 26/05/2012 08:06

Discipline in schools reflects discipline at home. If DC are not taught appropriate behaviour at home then they wont have the resources to behave properly in school. A good home can compensate for most deficiencies in a school but no school can combat the problems caused by a neglectful home.

And no school or parent should tolerate those who haven't been taught how to behave at home preventing the well behaved majority from achieving their potential. Discipline in schools has to be applied fairly, tranparently and proportionately. If my child were disciplined for wearing a skirt an inch to short, why should she or I accept the punishment when another child has told a teacher to "fuck off" and there has been no visible consequence, because the little darling comes from a difficult background and the school is diverse and in London.

If schools want to sink to the lowest common denominator sobeit. But we required something better than the lowest common denominator and the ethos of flexible boundaries and differentiated behaviour policies is not supportive of children from deprived backgrounds. What we need are many more PRUs where dysfunctional young people can be supported to behave in a civilised manner, where there are sufficient resources to turn them round and which prevent them from the raining on the parade of the silent majority.

soverylucky · 26/05/2012 08:09

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cory · 26/05/2012 08:13

and weed was absolutely unknown before 1997, too

marriedinwhite · 26/05/2012 08:20

There is a huge difference soverylucky between pranks which require a minor visible consequence and behaviour that is dangerous, intimidatory and entirely dysfunctional.

We removed our daughter from a top London comprehensive at the end of year 8 over behaviour. Half a dozen girls were suspended a month ago - they beat up a child, the police were involved, they did something unbelievably dangerous as a warning to everyone who might tell. Their behaviour has gone barely challenged now for three years because they need support because of their circumstances. I am quite sure it will take a stabbing or a permanent injury before they are permanently excluded.

We were lucky we had the means to remove our daughter from an otherwise lovely school with super staff. Others don't have the means and their children should not have to suffer and the teaching profession should not allow it to happen. That is why I have lost respect for rafts of the profession, because it is excuse after excuse whilst at the same time being happy to tear a strip off a child for forgetting their PE kit - not the child who will answer back though.

merrymouse · 26/05/2012 08:43

As far as I remember, being caught with drugs on school premises resulted in expulsion 20 years ago and it does in most schools now.

Apparently, at some schools, where they have a big drugs problem, they are using counselling though.

ilovesooty · 26/05/2012 09:41

And no school or parent should tolerate those who haven't been taught how to behave at home preventing the well behaved majority from achieving their potential. Discipline in schools has to be applied fairly, tranparently and proportionately. If my child were disciplined for wearing a skirt an inch to short, why should she or I accept the punishment when another child has told a teacher to "fuck off" and there has been no visible consequence, because the little darling comes from a difficult background and the school is diverse and in London.

If schools want to sink to the lowest common denominator sobeit. But we required something better than the lowest common denominator and the ethos of flexible boundaries and differentiated behaviour policies is not supportive of children from deprived backgrounds. What we need are many more PRUs where dysfunctional young people can be supported to behave in a civilised manner, where there are sufficient resources to turn them round and which prevent them from the raining on the parade of the silent majority*

Ormiriathomimus · 26/05/2012 17:43

" I don't understand this post! Your friend's daughter was expelled for supplying week but you didn't know her mum? Surely her mum was your friend?"

Ah.... here's the thing. She had two parents Wink Girl lived with her dad who was our friend - she only spent alternative weekends with mum.

Krumbum · 27/05/2012 10:51

When I was in school my friend put some speed into some flapjacks in food tech. Only she and her bf ate then though lol. She also took an E on sports day, she did win the 100m! school never questioned us on drugs at all, even when coming back from lunch really obviously stoned lol.

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