To not want my daughters' primary school to run a Nail Club (fingernail painting)?

[Bodkin]

It's one of the official after-school clubs. All the girls want to go. It's so popular they've had to limit it to years 5 & 6.

I've nothing against nail varnish, just think it's not a suitable primary school club and the time could be better used.

The children asked, someone was happy to volunteer; I fail to see the issue.

I assume that a boy could join too if he wanted.

They have chosen this, it's now up to the adults to make this a good and healthy experience for them.

yup, what Laurie says.

There isn't a single girl in my son's scout troupe!

Nails, paper - what's the big deal? I don't get it. They're not painting their nails then getting pissed or going on the pull!

Last time I checked having pretty nails didn't affect your health. Eating an unhealthy diet does. Your dc's views on stereotypes will come from you at this age not the colour of their nails

Don't see the problem tbh......tho I may suggest mums / dads are involved and can have hand massages / nails painted, could be fun if done properly.

Ugh grim. Yanbu.

As if young girls don't have this kind of stereotyping jammed down their necks enough already.

But it's not the girls who are doing the stereotyping. It's the adults on here who have a problem with it.

Exactly, Celia!

I'm intriguesd as to quite what the sterotype is though

evergreentrees

I wasn't suggesting that nail-painting is physically unhealthy.

My point was that children shouldn't get things just because they want them.

RetroMom

That's a shame. Some troops are now more girls than boys, I'm told. Still more boys than girls in the organisation as a whole, of course. Still, girls can join if they want to.

Retro I was a girl who did shooting as an afterschool activity. My parents were fine with me doing it and I learnt a lot. I gained a lot from it such as handling responsibility, discipline, patience (not shooting my little brother who was also in gun club and annoyed everyone!) and also how to shoot which shocked a few people when I showed up to OTC at university. They were not expecting a girl to have the best shot 3 years in a row.

I wasn't the only girl in gun club. It was a 50/50 mix. Our teacher was fab and would spend 15 mins at the start introducing us to a new weapon and how it was used and why. He used to always say the best weapon is your mind!

You can have fun, color and be creative by running an art club.

Yanbu

My DD has just finished school, except to attend for final exams, she is planning on becoming a MW.

She has spent a lot of the time doing her nails, because come September when she is on placement, this will go out of the window.

Her prom has cost me a fortune in hair and beauty. Wanting to look good/be into makeup and poor self esteem doesn't go hand in hand.

My eldest has mirrored this, her and her friends look like wags when they go out, come Monday morning they are back to work wear, in their cases all nurses or care staff/supervisors.

Looking rough doesn't make you more intelligent/less shallow. In fact that can be a sign of low self esteem.

Women sitting painting/belly dancing for each other is a part of the worship of women, not a put down. We should be able/taught to celebrate all sides of ourselves.

Are girls not allowed trivial nonsense any more?

What about boys? Are they allowed to have frivolous interests?

You can have fun, color and be creative by running an art club

Yup. Or a nail art club. What's the problem? Really?

Looking rough doesn't make you more intelligent/less shallow. In fact that can be a sign of low self esteem

Yup, I agree.

Hey, I'm not saying girls can't/shouldn't join gun clubs. It was a whole other point I was making.

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Birds Looking good also doesn't equate to painting ones nails. I would like to think I look good because I eat well, exercise, take care of my appearance and exercise my mind. I don't wear much makeup nor do I paint my fingernails but they are maincured.

Maybe they don't want an art club. Maybe they just want to paint their nails. I am not artistic at all and found art classes awkward but I can paint my nails. That obviously makes me stupid and shallow. So be it. St least I am happy-with pretty hands.

It is really no big issue, the girls wanted it, they got a volunteer. It is always those who don't volunteer that moan, offer to run an exciting club that girls would like to attend.

YABU. And a bit of a misery, TBH.

HTH

Sorry, does "looking rough" mean having painted nails, or not having them? Genuine question.

I have nothing against kids (girls or boys) having fun doing trivial things.

I guess it depends on how the club is run - whether it's a limiting-their-horizons low-self-esteem type of thing, or more of a glitter-and-giggling-but-you-can-still-be-an-astronaut type of thing.

want2be I've just read your earlier post and I'm actually shocked.

If your dd wanted to do a nail painting club you would suggest woodwork instead.

So even if she wants to be girly she is not allowed, she has to do woodwork instead.

So for all the years women were forced to act "like women" and women quite rightly objected, you have now made the decision that your dd doesn't get that choice?

And you think that's ok because you are female?
I don't get it.

And FWIW I don't think you have the right to make that choice for her.

I know Retro it's just that your post reminded me of my afterschool activities and many would be horrified that this was offered. It was at an English school and I was 10, my brother 8 when we started.

Stu Birds means unkempt/ungroomed