to think it most unreasonable that I am still expected to get up at the crack of dawn and the bloody teenagers don't appear for hours?

[DameHermione]

What age is reasonable to let themselves get up and off to school?

What is most unfair is getting up so bloody early and bloody dd2 not getting up at all. Infuristes me.

Also would it be turribly U to expect DD1 to feed the menagerie seeing as she has to be up early and I don't?

you dont get up at the crack of dawn really and your kid gets up at 8 the other 1 seems a tad upset so will go when she isnt so upset anyway , i get up at 7 dd gets up at half past , dd1 sorts herself I jusr make sure dd2 is out the door , im confused really maybe your just tired but i dont think you are getting up that early

Are you not enabling her school avoidance? "it's the fault of her stupid French teacher" - really? . I bet they love you at parents evenings.

you dont want responsibilities ,well sometimes we have to suck it up and get on with it , you sound a bit sulky today go back to bed i assume they have gone to school go back to bed and catch up on your sleep ,

But i don't think it is unreasonable for anyone to not want to get up. The SN bit isn't relevant and i only used it as an explaination why DD2 wont go to school and why the stupid french teacher needs stern words.

Flogging. Read the bit about the IEP. Then join anyone else who thinks they could do it better. St least then i wouldn't have to.

of course i groan when the alarm goes off , but you just need to do it dont you , I think you need to stop calling the french teacher stupid you sound like a teenager , what happened that she upset your daughter , have you spoken to the school about the incident ,

I know I need to do it. I just don't want to.

I feel your pain. Tomorrow I have to get up at 4.30 to get to work for 5.30. DH will come home completely pissed at about midnight as he has a work reunion tonight and then snore and snort all night. GRRRRRR. On the rare days I can have a lazy morning the bloody dog gets in on the act and wants to go out at 6.30.
Meanwhile DD and DS will snooze peacefully until at least 8.
My DS(15) has ASD also but is brilliant at getting himself up and off to school every day, sometimes in an empty house if DH has left at 5.45 and I'm on a 6.00am start so I think I'm quite lucky.
In conclusion YADNBU

Let your eldest feed the cats. Or youngest.

You can get up a bit later but it would be nice to be up and see them off to school.

i hear ya, Dame. i really do. sometimes it's too tiring. i know you laughed in hollow fashion at the idea of a holiday but i have a pal who looks out for groupons and takes herself to a hotel (in town, so just on the tube) for a spa day and night's stay and she says it is WONDERFUL and worth doing for the battery recharge. apparently she just reads books, bathes and eats in bed.

(and only costs sixty quid or whatever)

The thing is, if you don't want to get up, then don't.

Get your eldest to make youngest breakfast and get up just as the eldest leaves for school?
As long as packed lunch, uniform etc is done the night before you don't actually have to get up until your eldest is leaving do you?

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I'm working more bloody bastard cunting nights from tonight.

Is it too early for gin?

can you get a delayed feeder thing for the cats- can't remember what they are called- they keep the food fresh but open up at set times- so you don't have to get up for them?

I know what you mean about just wanting some time off- however DS who is only 2 is not a good sleeper and the idea of not getting up til 7 is a faraway dream!

But can you rest now if you are working tonight?

Go back to bed :)

Stuff to do.

Then gin.

Then try to sleep.

First must do stuff. And buy gin for later.

If you are at work tonight go back to bed just go and you can sleep the rest of the morning away

Personally I am of the opinion that stuff can wait if I'm tired, it will still be there waiting tomorrow :)

feels very slightly guilty that I didn't actually see either of my children this morning as I was in the shower when they went to school.

I usually am up well before they go, and have often left before them - DH is often still here or eldest has a key. DS started making packed lunches when I was bedridden with flu a couple of years ago, and it has continued to be his responsibility.

Feel for you DameHermione. Think a large mug of coffee a better idea than gin however, so here's a

My DCs do their own lunches as well, they take it in turns --to see who can put more crap into the lunch whilst making sure there is some actual food.

DameHermione huge sympathies I HATE mornings, DH chases my 14Yo to school bus. I sort DD2(11) an hour later. Not that she needs much sorting, generally she nags me.

Next year she'll be up dressed and at the bus stop by herself. She'll probably ensure DD1 is too.
(DD1 is dyslexic and used to be rather scatty, she's grown up a lot. DH and her have just got into a routine for mornings. I'm sure she could sort herself.)

Even so I long for teenage mornings when no one wakes me till lunch time and I don't have to cook it!

Can't help with the teenagers, but I second the delayed feeder thing for the cats, buys you an extra hour in bed.

I am not a morning person at all. I need quiet in the mornings (fat chance).

I've been up every day for near on three weeks at 6 to do medical treatment with DS and then get DS and DD ready for school.

DH meanwhile, rolls out of bed at 7:30, hogs the bathroom for 20 minutes and then strolls out the door. I hate him at the moment for being such a selfish prick.

YANBU, I would expect teenagers of their ages to get up and ready without the constant supervision, but tomorrow is Saturday, you'll be able to get a lie in then no?

Ah just saw your post about working nights. Sympathies to you Hermione, that sucks monkey balls (saying between a good friend and I when he has to work nights).