To think that going comprehensive is an exit from the middle class?

[VolvoMo]

There may be a few minor exceptions (due to wealth or ideology) but doesn't going comp take away your middle class badge and worse, give your kids the chance to carry a big chip on their shoulder for their adult life.

Jinsei, has it occurred to you that your post reeks of smugness. From your university name dropping, to your high salary, to your moral high ground and right down to your winky smile face. Smug smug smug. At least snobs admit to snobbery.

Isn't it a bit common to say your upper middle class?

In answer to the person who asked if the Welsh have a concept of class - no, we have crachach

Personally I would stick to a comp of a private school is full of little mini volvos! Yuk!

It's common to care. People who are truly upper middle class (if such a thing actually exists) wouldn't dream of categorising themselves anyway.

The need to lay out MC credentials is so desperate it's actually hilarious.

Oh look at me, I'm so middle class. I went to Oxbridge dontcha know. I have several degrees. I work in a very well thought of industry.
I ma superior. I am. I am. I am...

But many areas simply don't have grammar schools!

Do they teach the concept of irony at independent schools, OP?

She's right though, a mini Volvo would not last long in a comp. I'm welsh so above such matters.

PS. In our (very) middle class town, the comprehensive school was the favoured choice. Those people who paid silly money to send their children to the local independent school tended to be thought of as aspiring buffoons. Mainly because the quality of education was distinctly inferior - both academically and pastorally.

I suspect those aspiring baffoons were very very upset that their betters thought so badly of them.

Do you get special parking with a mc badge?

Only one grammar in my city. And no private schools. Middle classes are a bit stuffed here, have no choice but to rub shoulders with the commoners.

What a frightfully common city! What a wretched place! You ought move.

saggar Oh the middel classes don't mind rubbing shouders with the working classes providing they are poor.

Then they can provide an excellent opportunity for their DC to mix.

Howver they do not like a working class person who is successful and well off. They are nouveau riche. Which is A Very Bad Thing.

The working classes are fine as long as they know their place .

It's EXTREMELY common of you to discuss class at all Volvo.

I can't help but compare you to a less funny Rimmer in Red Dwarf. Someone who has delusions of grandeur and feels like they have to express how better they are because of their class, or rather the class they see themselves in.

It's a ridiculous way to be.

What a pile of wank, OP.

Posh Cheshire here. State school for my DCs. My DH Oxbridge educated with a phd, me a professional. Millionaires with helipads and cars more expensive than the average house.Friend sends here kids to a prep school so that they go to the grammar in Wirral. All of the mums there are all blue collar workers with huge mortgages bank loans to send them to the private school.

There is probably some truth in the OP that we don't want to face.

It is a matter of fact that despite only educating 7% of the population, the percentage of independently educated (or grammar school educated) is closer to 50% at the top universities.

If you look at our current MPs, only 43% of them went to comprehensive schools. The rest were independently or grammar school educated.

Your chances of a profession diminishes if you use comprehensive schools.

Clearly the stuff about class is purely inflammatory. But the stuff about advantage is an unpalatable truth which no-one on this thread has chosen to engage with.

oh piss off why dont you a middle class child would eat home made wedges if they were lucky they wouldnt eat chips jeez some people really have something stuckup their arse ,

Huh?

Anyway, surely private schooling is the domain of the upper classes.

I am surprised that anyone would think that one single thing acts as a determining identifier as to which class a person belongs to.

It's like saying that 'wealth' is the one thing that determines class. That 'profession' is. That 'assets' are. That where you live is. That the supermarket you shop in is. That the newspaper you read is.

You can't take one single class identifier and draw any conclusions at all.

It's a myriad different things, some so infinitesimal as to be invisible to the naked eye. To get caught up with just one of them - in this case school level education - seems to show a lack of understanding as to how the class system actually works. It's an art, not an exact science.

I don't think you really have any credibility to theorise on the subject, OP.

The upper classes consist of titled aristocracy, landed gentry, etc. So no, private schooling is not the domain of the upper classes.

VolvoMo

What conclusion do you make if the only educational option is Comp on the grounds that the nearest private school is okay but not first rate by any stretch of the imagination and there are no grammar schools?

I live in something of an educational blackhole so this is a genuine question.

Surely you're not being serious, OP?

If you are, your way of thinking is wrong, and I pity you.

I actually don't even understand your what point you are trying to make in your op.