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To think that going comprehensive is an exit from the middle class?

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VolvoMo · 17/05/2012 14:28

There may be a few minor exceptions (due to wealth or ideology) but doesn't going comp take away your middle class badge and worse, give your kids the chance to carry a big chip on their shoulder for their adult life.

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cornflowers · 21/05/2012 12:42

Well, when a word is misused frequently enough, the dictionaries eventually feel obliged to acknowledge the barstardised definition.

PickledFanjoCat · 21/05/2012 12:42
  1. pissy:

complaining and moaning over stupid shit.
man ima sock u if u dont stop being so pissy

Greythorne · 21/05/2012 12:54

Well at least my pissy dictionary post has killed this crass thread. :) Let's move on to something worth debating.

Whatmeworry · 21/05/2012 12:58
  1. pissy:

Feline inhabitant of £1.5 McMansions in vair naice parts of tine.....

LeQueen · 21/05/2012 13:35

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PickledFanjoCat · 21/05/2012 13:46

Man ima sock u if you call me hissy.

Deadsouls · 21/05/2012 13:47

There may be a few minor exceptions (due to wealth or ideology) but doesn't going comp take away your middle class badge and worse, give your kids the chance to carry a big chip on their shoulder for their adult life.

Blah blah blah.....boring move on, who even cares about or thinks about this crap? Yawn...next please

DiscontinuedModelHusband · 21/05/2012 13:55

so that means i'm not middle class then?

did i play trivial pursuit with my parents all those times for NOTHING?

Aboutlastnight · 21/05/2012 14:03

Embrace your expulsion from middle classdom. You are now free to forget to sort your recycling without being gripped with guilt. No longer will you have to squint at weird Farrow and Ball colours and pretend you have any clue at all what shade of sludge will look good on your pantry wall. And engaging in conversations about what top -of -the- range (natch) but knocked- down -in -price ski gear you will be buying (cos y' know the credit crunch is biting hard) on Ebay will be a thing of the past...

jandymaccomesback · 21/05/2012 14:18

Where does the obsession with class on Mumsnet come from? Are there an abnormally large number of insecure people on here?

Whatmeworry · 21/05/2012 14:20

No longer will you have to squint at weird Farrow and Ball colours and pretend you have any clue at all what shade of sludge will look good on your pantry wall.

:o

vintagewarrior · 21/05/2012 14:33

I am middle class, but op you are a cunt, which I believe crosses all class boundaries.

Bonsoir · 21/05/2012 14:52

"However upper and middle classes are reachable to those who made enough money to buy the trappings associated with that class."

It is not sufficient, in European class systems, to have enough money to purchase material possessions in order to rise through the social ranks. Economic clout is not enough. You need also to have the cultural knowledge and tastes (education) of the class you aspire to.

PickledFanjoCat · 21/05/2012 14:53

If you'd really want to. I would prefer to be one of LeQueens joyous neighbours if I came into money.

snappysnappy · 21/05/2012 16:42

Bonsoir we are speaking about the UK and from what I have seen there is lots of mobility when it comes to culture and pastimes. Nowadays culture is no longer the preserve of the wealthy and is accessible to many.

The upper classes can be equally clueless when it comes to art, literature etc

LeQueen · 21/05/2012 19:12

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marriedinwhite · 21/05/2012 20:40

I'm still wondering about Seeker's post

Marriedinwwhite- he is q transition species- his children will have fully evolved to middle class- or PLGs, as my dp (also a transition species) refers to his own children....

I get transition species (and will tell him at the right moment) but what does PLGs mean?

seeker · 21/05/2012 22:19

Ah. PLG- I know as soon as I pushed send I would regret it -I though I had got away with it.

PLG is how my dp, on occasion refers to his own children and some of their friends- Posh Little Gits. It is, I hasten to add, before some of the people who are, bizarrely, taking this thread seriously, leap on me, intended humorously and in the manner of a Monty Python Northerner.

PickledFanjoCat · 21/05/2012 22:39

I did wonder as well, that's cute.

marriedinwhite · 22/05/2012 07:38

*seeker we have herds of them through here. Although on occasion I have only previously referred to ours as a pair of little S**s and boy do they remember it and roll it out. Grin. DH will love it.

LieInsAreRarerThanTigers · 22/05/2012 11:00

Coming back to this thread after a few days away in Tuscany I would just like to point out that I personally was not waving my middle class credentials just so that others could fill in their spreadsheets or in any way be impressed with my background...I am quite often embarrassed at my relatively privileged, comfortable upbringing and the opportunities I know ot gave me EVEN THOUGH I WENT TO A BLOODY COMPREHENSIVE! I was just trying to give some evidence that middle class people go to comprehensives by choice and think it is a good thing to mix with every social tier of the population, as in life!

I have no 'badge' and I am not a snob, I am fascinated by the class 'system' and how it has evolved over the last century, from a sociology and a business/marketing point of view. I know and enjoy knowing people from all 'walks of life'. But if I talk about my season as a chalet girl, people are instantly inclined to think 'middle class'. Lots of other examples I could give - there is no escaping it!

teaaddict2012 · 22/05/2012 11:07

Oh dear.

that is all.

cory · 22/05/2012 11:15

I am confused Confused

I have an education, but it wasn't acquired from the right school- so does it count or does it not?

I am rather good at English grammar, but I was taught it as a MFL- does that count or not?

I send my children to a comprehensive but no knives stuck into mouths in this household- which trumps the other?

I have the middle class pursuits but not the money- again, which trumps the other?

(actually, could someone clarify that medieval paleography does count as a middle class pursuit- quite happy to have it relabelled working class if that is the general verdict; just wanting clarification)

I swear but only on Mumsnet- does that count?

and why am I spending my time on this utterly pointless but addictive thread- perhaps someone could clarify that too?

Bonsoir · 22/05/2012 11:48

cory - forgive me, but I think of you as an impecunious intellectual (which is most definitely MC).