To be annoyed that old people park in mother & child spaces?

[olimpia]

There are never enough mother & child parking spaces where I shop - be it supermarket or shopping centre - so I've started to notice who is actually parked in those spaces. Well, I've noticed it's mostly old people with no children. The other day I was so annoyed by this that I confronted an old man parked in a mother &. child space at Morrisons having a fag in his car while his wife did the shopping. He got very angry and basically said that he had more right than me to park near the entrance because his wife had arthritis. This is not the first time that I see older people without kids abuse the parking facilities for mothers with young children. In fact it happens all the time and supermarket staff just turn a blind eye!
I have a three month old baby and a large car so really struggle to park in regular size spaces and take the buggy out. But AIBU?

My mum used to use the P&C spaces in our local supermarket merrily when dad was having chemo. No-one ever said anything. Probably because he was terminally ill at that stage and wasn't exactly skipping into the shop.

We like to drive to the supermark just to park in the P&C spaces and then hide in the boot and giggle at all the outrage going on around us. Sometimes we take a picnic and everything which is lots of fun. Although it's a bit cramped in the boot with 3 of us and a disposable bbq. I managed to set the parcel shelf on fire last time

*supermarket

without fail every single time I shout at someone for parking in a mother and baby space a bloody baby materialises from somewhere in the car!!! It was a convertable porsche with buckets seats last time - car seat was hidden way down.... One day I will be right......

I a[prk in mother and baby with my 12, 11, 8 and 4 year olds.

" of those have diagnosed (but invisble) disability, the other has just started the assessment period- I don't always use them, I very rarely shjop with them without an additional adult tbh, only in an emergency but I don't feel guilty OP, why would I? it's your problem if you think you need the space more than me with my kids who have SN, or indeed an older person with arthritis.

Nobody has yet said anything though; if they did I would give them a boring and ultimately mind numbing description of the complex care needs of my little family and why parking in a M&C space just occasionally makes a big difference. If theys till care, poor sods, I hope their empathy returns soon.

Yes

I honestly dont care who parks in the M&B spaces , if there is one free then thats nice , if there isnt then i drive a teeny bit further and park elsewhere . In the summer i park as far as possible from the entrance as there are trees and then when i return to the car it isnt like a furnace inside , but then i was lucky and born with two legs that work so you know .............

I always park my goat in the parent and child parking spaces.

Cos its a Kid?

I have just brought a monster truck so I just park where I like even if there is already a car there or not

The only time I got annoyed when I couldn't park in mother and baby was when I was heavily pregnant with my twins and actually couldn't get out the car ha!
So dh used to dropped me at the front entrance and he parked somewhere else!!

There hand when raining but really a space is a space isn't it? We have a massive car (5 children) and manage normal spaces.

Yes xkatyx

We have a Multipla, I will merrily grab a P&C space if there is one given ds4's special needs but if there isn't so be it.

Only time as a said that I rely on it is the maybe once a year that I go out alone with them, trying to stop one banging into another car's door whilst stopping another running off and yet another one trying to kill the last one- no ta! A wider space near the shop matters then.

I do recall getting stuck in a door when expecting ds4 but tbh a wide space further away would suffice then. If someone has SPD I wouldn't begrudge them a disability space on basis of severe medically induced pain but my empathy and tolerance based system wouldn't last a minute sadly.

My DH parked in a P&C space recently when he took his mum shopping. It was at 8.00pm though.
His mum uses a stick and struggles a bit getting in and out of the car.

I expect he's going to some circle of hell ...

Before P&C spaces were invented my kids had a habit of dissolving when it rained if we had to park far away from the entrance. That was a bit annoying.

I parked in a P&T space this morning after I picked DS1 (17) up from college because all the disabled spaces were full. One of the women coming back to her car had a problem with it and started having a go. DS1 politely told her that P&T spaces aren't enforceable, and as I am disabled my need topped hers every single time! She called him a cocky little shit and scuttled off to her car!

Your poor DS! Great that he stuck up for you though

I deliberately park in P&T spaces (minus the children) to see how many 'cats bum' faces I can get.

He was fine, Salmotrutta. Both my boys stick up for me, DS2 wouldn't have been so polite! I think she was embarressed because he had said something to back to her TBH!

Fucking first world problems.

My thoughts are with you.

Some people need to get a hobby, it might make the day go a little quicker for them & reduce the need to get worked up about this sort of shite.

why do people always make m and t spaces about disability. if you are disabled you will have blue badge and entitled to use the disabled places. its non disabled knuckle headed people usually pensioners who use them.

supermarkets are not charity and realise that mothers with children spend the most, and treat their valued customers accordingly. what wrong in that.

Crap Scarlett

Lots of disabled people don;t get a blue badge- my boys don't, yet they attend SN Schools.

And separately I would say rightly so, en masse not at all but there is no provision for that within the systems. So when it's me and 3 with autism it's survival mode.

knuckle headed people usually pensioners who use them - I take it you plan on being superbly agile and lithe into great old age then Scarlett?

Plenty of old people around here who don't have blue badges but do have mobility issues when struggling in and out of cars with sticks or whatever.

I'd much rather see P&C spaces being changed to pensioners spaces frankly.

Plenty of pensioners have worked in various ways to make your world a better place. So that you have the luxury to moan about parking.

Quite Salmo

Grandad just got his first blue badge, at 91 but used a stick long before. Only now he relies on a wheelchair has he got a badge.

disabled spaces are for people with mobility issues so they can get safely in and out if the car? or am i wrong?

m and t spaces are so that mothers can get their children in and out of the car safely.

maybe there should be provisions for sn people under the blue badge system, but there isn't at the moment. Also if you are elderly with mobility problems you can apply for a blue badge, if you have been refused one you shouldnt be in either a m and t space or a disabled space either.

maybe that's the answer make wider m and t spaces at the rear of the car park and change the current ones to pensioner spaces.