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Warning... It's dog related.. Owners should keep better control over their dog/s

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MamaMaiasaura · 14/05/2012 14:11

Lovely sunny day so dh, me and 3 dc went to highcliffe beach. It's a really nice beach and families go there as well as many dog walkers. This is fine of course.

However, we had our towels and windbreak up, baby's pram and buckets and spade and picnic. Normal stuff.

So we are there, I'm looking after baby and boys playing with dh in sand/stones.

Dog comes up and pisses over bucket. Owner is horrified and washes bucket in sea. Ok, owner dealt with it.

Bit later a couple of women with 3 dogs, one a standard poodle. The standard poodle comes and pisses over windbreak (picnic bag the other side) owners dreadfully sorry but ffs couldn't they keep dogs closer to them.

And later still family with 2 smaller dogs. Dogs come bounding through our picnic and then one goes to piss on pram. Dh shouted at dog and owners said said "oh they just love kids"... "I said if you can't keep your dogs to yourselves you should keep them on leads"

I have to say there were lots of people with dogs there and most of them just went past and no issues. Oh and the poodle owner quipped "that's dogs for you".... [hmmm]

Sorry I know this seems anti dogs. It's not, it's the feckless owners (minority) who think everyone should love their dogs and not mind them pissing on their belongings.

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stripesnotspots · 14/05/2012 16:18

Sigh. There should really be another forum where people can permanently whinge about dogs/dog owners/ their poor Dc's and dogs etc etc etc tedious beyond belief.

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MamaMaiasaura · 14/05/2012 16:26

Cake, I don't think it was the dog section a actually. As you come down the windiing path with sea infront ( and view of iow ) the dog section is on the left (past where the lifegaurd station used to be) and the restricted section on the right adjoining Avon beach eventually. I was on the right hand side almost opposite the step steps right up to castle car park. But thanks for calling me a selfish woman for not wanting my pram, windbreak and children's toys and picnic pissed on. And yes it's a fuxking dogs thread but it's not about the dogs it's about the few crap owners.

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MamaMaiasaura · 14/05/2012 16:27

stripe why do you create your own section where pile can discuss only topics of your choice... Perhaps china?

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MamaMaiasaura · 14/05/2012 16:28

And me say nursing my baby while dh and dx play in sand and flying kites is not what I'd call flapping around and rolling eyes at all the dogs walking past, and their canines Wink

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stripesnotspots · 14/05/2012 16:29

A permanent dogs talk section would be VERY popular then everyone actually interested in the same old arguments can have a good old rant at each other

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MamaMaiasaura · 14/05/2012 16:31

People not pile Blush

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D0oinMeCleanin · 14/05/2012 16:32

But it is a pointless thread, designed merely to stir things up. You know you are not unreasonable to want your things not to be pissed on by random dogs. You know only a nutter and me would say YABU.

So why start a thread asking if YABU?

No YANBU to expect a dog not to pee up your pram. YABU to start yet another thread moaning about dogs.

Just go to dog free places (of which there are plenty) if they bother you so much and leave all us lufferly, sane and normal dog owners in peace.

JosieZ · 14/05/2012 16:33

Haven't read whole thread.
Dogs peeing on stuff is a real nuisance, have seen dogs make beeline for picnic bag on beach (to pee on not to eat), is it because there is a shortage of lamposts or something?

You could try spraying something strong smelling over belongings, windolene?, hairspray?, or that special dog deterrant to avoid it happening again.

MousyMouse · 14/05/2012 16:34

But it is a pointless thread, designed merely to stir things up
isn't that what AIBU is for?

Wink
BettyBathroom · 14/05/2012 16:35

Two terriers came running up to my dd and starting growling and going for her, dd was terrified & cried - owner who clearly couldn't control her dogs, and had no recall skills at all, shouted at me that I should get a dog so my dd would be so scared! Some people shouldn't be allowed to keep animals!

ItsAPublicForumWhine · 14/05/2012 16:36

There's a bit of green space behind my house where dogs are allowed to roam free by their owners. The area is not secure, it's possible for them to run out into the busy main road.

There's often scraps between dogs. I've been threatened by a dog there as a child and one of our cats has been savaged there by a dog. It's all covered in dog crap. Not all owners are irresponsible, but I'd be a damn sight less nervous if they were all on leads.

I can't get away from it seeing as I live there.

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MamaMaiasaura · 14/05/2012 16:37

If its pointless than post elsewhere. Not pointless to me, but then I did post this in the hope the dog owners involved might be mnetter...

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MamaMaiasaura · 14/05/2012 16:39

And the title gives clear warning of topic, so those not wishing to see yet another dog topic know what they can do Grin

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D0oinMeCleanin · 14/05/2012 16:42

It is illegal to have a dog 'roam free' in the UK. It is also illegal not to pick up your dog's crap or have them 'dangerously out of control in a public place'. Report them.

Were the non doggy people at the back of the line when common sense was handed out?

There a bit of green space at the front of my house. A woman lets her two GSDs (there used to be three but one sadly died) and her lurcher out without a lead (which is not illegal as she is there supervising and controlling them and collecting their craps up). Funnily enough these dogs also ignore me when I pass Sad apart from once when dd2 called them over to her buggy, that time one of them came to her and placed it's head on her lap and let her stroke him Shock, obviously I had it PTS for daring to breathe the same air as my PSB.

Horsemad · 14/05/2012 16:44

Someone I know was out walking when a dog came racing upto them and jumped up, despite the walker requesting the owner that they put the dog on a lead.

When the walker kicked the dog as it jumped up at them, the owner couldn't get there quick enough and had a go at the walker. It was not pleasant.

ItsAPublicForumWhine · 14/05/2012 16:47

It is illegal to have a dog 'roam free' in the UK. It is also illegal not to pick up your dog's crap or have them 'dangerously out of control in a public place'. Report them.

I got interested in this part - then noticed you'd said if the owners are there it's fine. So, I can't report anything can I? Or can I? Confused

We did report the savaging dog, and could have had it destroyed. As we are nice people and understand that dogs will go for cats, we didn't.

It's a bit rude to accuse me of having no common sense. I don't have dogs so why would I know the law about leads? Since I was small dogs have been allowed to do the same thing on the green space, so why would I think i can do anything about it?

SusanneLinder · 14/05/2012 16:49

I agree dogs should be on leads, if they cause a nuisance to other people.

Even more importantly, so should half of the nation's children :o

stripesnotspots · 14/05/2012 16:51

I know someone who was mugged by a dog. In their own garden. While they were looking after triplets. It had a knife and everything...

higgle · 14/05/2012 16:51

Sometimes even nice dogs do something they have not done before. I went with my then boyfriend to visit a friend. BF put sheepskin jacket on the back of a chair, friends dog came along, had a sniff and pissed in the pocket that had sort of gaped open - really funny, pocket just full of piss, couldn't stop laughing - the dog had done nothing like it before. Also Staffies can't always lick their bottoms ( I think, I know mine can't) so another reason to support this wonderful breed.

SusanneLinder · 14/05/2012 16:54

I know someone who was mugged by a dog. In their own garden. While they were looking after triplets. It had a knife and everything...

:o

PMSL

flapperghasted · 14/05/2012 17:01

I love my dog. I'm not overly fond of people who don't like my dog. I tell her to keep away from them and to help her remember this, I put a lead on her.

I don't generally go onto internet forums and moan about people who don't like my dog or dogs in general. They are entitled to their own opinions but I will generally like them less than I like the people who like my dog. She is part of my family and though you can dislike actual members of my family, like my sister Pen who is a bit hard to deal with, you cannot dislike my dog.

When people start saying that all dog owners are selfish twunts (paraphrases) they can fuck the fuckity off. That's like saying all children are annoying, vomitous little oiks (apart from mine) which would be totally unreasonable.

If I'm scooping up my dog's crap responsibly and keeping her away from their small children, people can't complain about me or my dog (well they can, but then they're just being arses).

D0oinMeCleanin · 14/05/2012 17:02

PublicForum a dog must be under control in public, leash or no leash. The woman in my post is not breaking the law because her dogs are under control. They come in as soon as she calls them and never approach strangers, unless said stranger is yelling "good doggy. Here good doggy" at them, even then they look to their owner for the okay.

It is not okay to have a dog off lead and out of control. Nor is it okay to leave it's shit laying about. If you are unable to use the green, without being harrassed by dogs, then you have every right to report them. You can also complain loudly and frequently about the shit, to the local dog warden.

Whether they will act, depends upon how good your local council is. My council should be replaced with trained monkeys, who'd do a better job, imo. So if you live near here, you're out of luck.

Cravey · 14/05/2012 19:05

I have 2 dogs and would have been horrified if they had done this. If people can't control the dog then keep it on the leash. Simple really. As an aside though I bloody hate parents who let kiddies stroke my animals without asking me first. I have lost count of the times parents tell little girls oh look at the puppy ( he is a very tiny two year old mini Doberman ) all well and good what they don't realise is he bloody hates kids and will snap whereas the huge German shepherd will quite gladly be petted etc. Yanu to expect peace while on the beach totally agree with you and the poster who knows its the owners not the dogs. So very true.

axure · 14/05/2012 19:12

YANBU I love dogs and have 2 myself, but would be mortified if they urinated on people's clothes, prams or food! Keep them on a lead if they can't be recalled. Similarly I also expect people to keep their DC under control in restaurants etc.

axure · 14/05/2012 19:13

YANBU I love dogs and have 2 myself, but would be mortified if they urinated on people's clothes, prams or food! Keep them on a lead if they can't be recalled. Similarly I also expect people to keep their DC under control in restaurants etc.