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aibu to hate union jacked food

116 replies

CreamolaFoamless · 11/05/2012 11:09

my delivery yesterday 2 loaves of bread wrappd up in union jacks

chips in a union jack packet

12 eggs in a union jack

Is everything going to be wrapped/encased in a union jack for the next few months

OP posts:
KenDoddsDadsDog · 11/05/2012 20:30

I think we might all start shitting Union Jacks soon.
I'm not proud of it though. Not arsed to be honest.

Softlysoftly · 11/05/2012 20:41

I'll be giving birth on the jubilee, wonder if you can get union jack maternity pads Hmm

I'm in Wales, Scottish grandmother, English parents so I'm all for the UJ, don't the Cornish want their own flag? What colour would that add? I think a nice purple would add flair...

Tiddlyompompom · 11/05/2012 21:21

Cornish flag's black with a white cross iirc.

I think a bit of overexposure this year will do the flag the world of good - and may finally free it of those unpleasant thuggish associations, so it can be used (in moderation) happily in future.
Yes it's everywhere, but it's only for one year, it's nice to be allowed to have a bit of national pride for once.

PercyIsGreen · 11/05/2012 21:28

We will all be dead the next time the Olympics are in Britain...enjoy it or lump it...I am going to enjoy it

fedupofnamechanging · 11/05/2012 22:21

I live in Wales and my little town centre is currently decorated with the union flag. I think it's a very pretty flag am grateful it's not green - who wants snot coloured french fancies?

NannyPlumIsMyMum · 11/05/2012 22:27

I agree with worra on the first page.
It's refreshing to be able to celebrate the English flag.
I am thoroughly embracing this years celebrations with my DC.
I'm not a Royalist and the Olympics bore me to tears.

But I choose to embrace them this year. Amongst all the doom and gloom some community spirit is just what's needed.

CrunchyFrog · 11/05/2012 22:35

National pride is a very bad thing. IMHO of course. WTF does it matter where you were born? Is your country better than all the rest? If all you have to be proud of is an accident of geography, that's pretty shit.

Call it patriotism, nationalism, jingoism, whatever. I hate it all and all the flags everywhere make me deeply uneasy.

(I'm also in NI. There was some big march here in my 70% RC town. Thousands of union jacks and unionist flags, thousands of visitors with a horrible attitude. Deeply, deeply unpleasant.)

madmouse · 11/05/2012 22:39

I have Union Jack 'Limited Edition' dishwasher tablets?? Hmm

Morloth · 11/05/2012 22:42

The problem with Australians being proud of our flag is that it still has somebody else's in the corner.

Nothing wrong with a bit of patriotism, humans like to identify in groups. This is just an extension of that.

JosephineCD · 11/05/2012 22:46

How is national pride a very bad thing? And how is where you are born an "accident of geography"? Unless your parents are itinerant travellers or something, where you are born is one of the major things that determines the kind of person you become.

SinisterBuggyMonth · 11/05/2012 23:04

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HoldMeCloserTonyDanza · 12/05/2012 02:32

I love the way everybody who thinks disliking the Union flag is "petty" is studiously ignoring all the posters who grew up having it shoved in their face as a form of sectarian hatred.

ShakeWhatYourMamaGaveYou · 12/05/2012 05:27

YABU. I think its a bit sad that Brits are slightly embarrassed to celebrate being a Brit. Other countries don't have this issue and certainly don't feel racist for hanging up their flag (maybe something to do with our sordid interesting history?

I LOVE seeing the union jack and actually quite proud! However I may be biased, I have lived abroad for 7 years and terribly homesick!

I was very ho-hum-so-what about British culture, history, union jack, royal family etc when I actually lived there but there's nothing like being immersed in another culture to really appreciate your own. :)

KenDoddsDadsDog · 12/05/2012 06:42

holdmecloser Completely agree.

SodoffBaldrick · 12/05/2012 07:02

I put it to you OP, that you're a bit of a misery.

OddBoots · 12/05/2012 07:48

Do those who have grown up with the flag as being a negative thing think it would help if there was a new flag? Is it the flag itself or the fact it represents the UK?

fedupofnamechanging · 12/05/2012 08:13

Shake - I don't understand it either. Other countries have equally sordid events in their histories, and actually, I don't think ours is all bad. There is a lot of good mixed in there.

I am proud to be British - on the whole I think we are a nice bunch of people, with a live and let attitude and a fundamental belief that the fortunate should take care of the less fortunate (NHS, for example). Naturally, I exclude the majority of politicians from my assessment of our national character - they are a separate breed of self serving arses.

FredFredGeorge · 12/05/2012 08:49

I'm generally appalled by the basic premise that you should "buy british", as if somehow foreigners produce crap, aren't worthy of being supported etc. ie it's better to support the multi millionaire farmer paying minimum wage growing inappropriate veg in greenhouses in the UK than it is to support the north african farmer growing appropriate vegetables with people on good local wages. The north african farmer won't be poor, but at least it genuinely causes some redistribution of wealth to the poorer groups, more money to the rich farmer (and no not all farmers are rich, but the vast majority of the "british produce" will be from ones that are, the poor one don't make much)

OddBoots · 12/05/2012 08:59

I don't automatically buy British for everything but I do try to buy British fresh produce (or grow my own), not because I think the British farmer is more deserving of my custom but because of the fuel it takes to bring things to this island - it is just as if not more likely those in the hotter countries who are having their lives threatened by man made climate change.

I do support those farming overseas (through charity and Kiva loans) but often their food is needed by their people, we're not always doing them a favour by buying it instead.

ChrisPeacock · 12/05/2012 09:00

Fred

Wouldnt the people of Africa be better off if they didnt sell food to us and they kept it to themselves?

We need to be keep our farmers going because if they all give up the business and we have to import all our food it is going to get even more expensive.

fedupofnamechanging · 12/05/2012 09:01

Surely it's better for our economy though, to buy goods which are produced in Britain?

FredFredGeorge · 12/05/2012 09:12

ChrisPeacock Of course not! The north african climate is very good for growing lots of food, and selling it then provides the money to buy drugs, healthcare, machinery for clean water etc. A man cannot live by bread alone and all that.

KarmaBeliever "our economy* possibly it's better, although not necessarily, it depends on all sorts of things, not least what you do with the alternative. If for example you don't and with the money saved get your hair done, you'll achieve more than if the profits made by the farmer are spent on a new iPad. But my complaint is that "our economy" is relevant, why do we care more about "our", than much poorer people and countries elsewhere in the world.

OddBoots It's not as simple as that, you can buy "british apples" now - they'll have been kept in a refigerated warehouse for the last 6 months costing huge amounts more fuel than the importing. The preference causes such distortions and inefficiencies.

EnjoyResponsibly · 12/05/2012 09:19

The Enjoy house will be literally festooned in Union flag bunting. DS and I will be kitted out in red, White ad blue togs. DH with his sour puss face will ave to lump it.

I'm thrilled to bits that we've got such an exciting summer coming up. It's going to happen whether you want to embrace it or not, so honestly why not just have a great time.

The kids are already caught up in it all through school. I remember the silver jubilee when I was at school and it was great.

This summer I shall be 7 years old again Smile

MNHQ will we have jubilee emoticons pleeeeeeeeease?

fedupofnamechanging · 12/05/2012 09:26

Fred, if our own economy fails, then it's our children who are directly affected. For that reason I would always put supporting our workers/industries above others, because I want my dc to grow up in a place where there are opportunities and a decent standard of living. It's not possible to make the world perfect for everyone, so we have to prioritise - I choose what is in the long term best interests of my own family.

Besides, if our economy goes tits up, then we are in no position to help other people anyway.

FizzyLaces · 12/05/2012 09:32

Bloody Union ack. I wish it and 'keep calm and carry on' would just fuck off Grin