To not give a toss about Abu Qatada's human rights?

[wannaBe]

So he came here on a fake passport, is a radical suspected of plotting God-knows-what, and yet we apparently shouldn't deport him back to where he came from (regardless of the fact he is here illegally) because he might be persecuted back in Jordan?

Now if this was an innocent person who meant no harm to others who had come here illegally I would be more sympathetic.

But it's not.

Live by the sword, die by the sword and all that.

and also, who would clean the hotels in the UK if you didn't have illegal immigrants. He may well have come in on a fake passport but so do thousands of people who do the work nobody else wants to.

Any brutalisation is more usually undertaken once someone is sent to prison rather than by the police or security services.

Yes but thats the right sort of Brutalisation as its condoned by process of law. Thats why US prisons are Good but Jordanian ones are Bad :)

yes but has he actually ever done any work in the UK or has he been on benefits. I don't agree with illegal immigrants but at least the ones in the hotels are paying for themselves and hopefully not claiming benefits.

I am sure there are some people who are not illegal immigrants who clean hotels as well.

YABU - we can't pick and choose which humans have rights...

YABU - we can't pick and choose which humans have rights

No, but as there is still a lot of debate about exactly which rights are inalienable, and the UK has not ratified Protocol 4 so they have no rights to stay right here when we don't think they're right.

He's has committed a crime in Jordan and will be tried once he has been extradited. We have extradition agreements with plenty of other countries, so I see no difference in this case.

I'd add the the ECHR is a lame duck. Italy extradited several suspected terrorists earlier this year against a ECHR ruling. The punishment - a slap on the wrist and a tiny (in terms of a country's wealth) fine.

Trazzeltoes

And my point is that those 'rights' aren't. They're peculiar to a particular social circle at a particular point in history.