To think that today's news offers a glimmer of hope

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here that Madeleine could still be alive. I have always thought the worse but this being bought up again now seems to be quite out of the blue and i can't help but hope.

I know its bad form, but i just wanted to share the glimmer

Seems to have some of the hallmarks of a super injunction, IMO

I honestly think that we will never know :( It isn't our right to know actually, but her parents must need to know? Or do they? All the while they don't KNOW there is that tiny hope that she may be alive and well (i know its unlikely but id cling onto anything if it were me), but by the same token, not knowing opens up the imagination to some terrible eventualities :(

So to sum up most of the this thread, posters think the British police, the whole of the british media, the McCanns and their friends have all managed to cover up what really happened to a little girl?

no, I don't think we will ever know either.

I don't think the police are covering anything up. I think they suspect what happened but don't have evidence to back it up (whatever it was).

I don't see why that is such an outlandish theory.

Not me, that's equally as implausible, but I think a lot of people recognise and question the deliberate or inadvertent inability to talk freely about this case in a way other cases can be discussed so openly. Which raises eyebrows.

I think you have hit the nail on the head wannaBe

I'm pleased this site delete wild accusations and Miss Marple ponderings directed at two bereaved parents.

Why should that "raise eyebrows"? It should just be seen as common decency.

But as has been said - there is freedom all over the place to conduct Miss Marple ponderings about virtually any other case in the history of crime. There is no sense of any of those that the threads might be deleted, that posts might be deleted...It might not be pleasant but why is it so unreasonable that some people indeed suspect the parents?

exactly bettybat. When Robert Murat was arrested there weren't any deletions of what was said about him, and he was no less innocent than the mccanns. If anyone else were arrested now the same considerations wouldn't apply.

To say that there are things about this case don't add up when 94 out of every 100 children that dies does so at the hands of someone known to them is not an outlandish statement to make.

And it's every other thing that is said about them...

I read further up thread that the twins wear her shoes and talk about her all the time and talk of "when she comes home," I personally find that quite creepy. Sorry but I do. Of course the parents will talk about the twins' sister, that is normal and natural and shouldn't be judged. But in such a way that these children who, let's be honest, didn't know Madeleine, will have no memory of her other than the pictures, will be growing up with an expectation that she will be coming home just makes me shudder. Sorry but that cannot be healthy. But I bet I get deleted for saying that.

noddy fantastic link..why is this information being supressed

I have no opinion either way on the parents, I really don't know - there's things that make me skeptical, and there's things that makes me thing people are seeing monsters where there are none. But regardless of anyone's opinion, it gets frighteningly close to whitewashing when discussions that challenge the orthodoxy put out by the very people discussed are deleted, or denied.

I can understand MM doing it because as I understand it, there has been a lot of litigation around people who have publicly expressed doubt? But just like wannaBe said - no one was deleting or suing people for accusations of Robert Murat. No one was sued when the landlord of Joanna Yeates was dragged through the public gallery and deemed guilty based entirely on the fact that he looked a little odd! So why are people not allowed to express their doubt of the parents?

wannaBe you are assuming that the information about the shoes is very recent and just shows how ridiculous the Miss Marple ponderings are on this thread.
As Madeline went missing when she was 3, the twins must have been 3 when they wore her shoes. There is every chance they remembered their sister at the time they wore her shoes.

Posters seem to take something read on the internet and then make huge stupid assumptions.

Why was my post deleted It was sky news!

bettybat I think if the Joanna Yeats case happened today MNHQ would be much more wary of people making untrue accusations and there would be more deletions. Especially as the landlord did, quite rightly successfully sue newspapers for libel.

I'm a bit perplexed by your deletion, too, Noddy. Seems a bit heavy handed to delete links to mainstream news reports.

Odd there is reference to this in the book Kate McCann wrote saying that much to their surprise the Leicester police arrived in Portugal but didn't give them the support they expected because of the evidence presentedhere This was written by kate mccann herself so is probably not delete worthy!

Wow my posts were deleted too - I can't even remember what I wrote but it was definitely not accusatory. Wow....

I have been VERY careful not to make accusations...mainly because I don't hold any kind of opinion like that! But also because I recognise the worry for MM...yet my posts have been deleted.

Wow - my posts are being deleted merely for suggesting the Official Line may be being questioned elsewhere. Nothing I'm saying is breaking "Official MN talk guidelines" but MN are clearly running very scared. Just Wow.

And yet there's no whitewashing going on, huh?

The TalkGuidlines say

No personal attacks
No posts that break the law
No trolling, goading or misleading
No trollhunting
No spamming

So under which heading did MNHQ see fit to delete Noddy's post? I read it and it didn't fit into any category. But it exactly proves the point that we are not able to have an open discussion about the McCanns - only the official version is OK.

I think if my post was dodgy sky news would have removed it for fear of litigation but it is still there. I was only linking it to show why some people were led to an alternative to abduction