to love this disabled parking idea?

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Because of this issues with non-blue badge holders parking in disabled spaces some Swedish municipalities are now replacing the usual disabled parking signs with ones that include the words 'LAZINESS IS NOT A DISABILITY'. I love it :o

I've had nothing said to me yet either, but have have some pointed looks for the badge.

I also park in disabled bays on a good day, but it's a good day for me, and being closer to the shop means getting to spend longer in it. It also keeps me out of bad weather when applicable, which plays havoc with my chest.
Walking round a supermarket with a trolley to lean on is fine, walking outside in the cold/wind/rain, not so much.

I've had a lot of looks but the worst was being challenged about using a disabled toilet - the queue for the ladies was about a mile long, I was having a bad day and could barely breathe (netto you and I have similar problems I think) but of course I don't look disabled so was obviously being selfish and entitled

You're making me think about the good days thing - part of why I don't is I do feel guilty underneath it all - almost like I have to be feeling awful to use it - forgetting I have a progressive degenerating condition and am quite entitled to it. I hate it :(

Me too.
I think, 'but I am entitled to it' (car/blue badge), and then hear the daily wailers screeching at me for being an entitled, lazy scrounger, which I'm not.
I used to work, I can't now, but of course people don't know that and don't see the full picture, or any of it with me, as apart from my swollen steroid face currently, which no one would know how it's caused, I just look like an ordinary 34yr old.

If that is the case why does anyone park in a prime space when someone might need it more than them?

Why would I whoop with glee at finding a space near the front and near a trolley park when its raining? Why dont I think 'I should leave that place for someone with twins, I only have the one DC with me today'

Because that space is for all car drivers and I am not expected to behave like a saint.

Why should a disabled person be expected to behave like a saint and give up the space they are allowed to park in?

Just in case someone needs it more than them?

That doesnt make any sense.

The commetns on the last page or so could be me. Good days, bad days, good days which end suddenly half way around Morrisons!

I'll be having an hour off MN tomorrow to fill the forms in, wish me luck!

Ok, so this has been bothering me all afternoon.

I am not having a go at anyone with a right to park in such spaces. My original post commented on people that park in dangerous places without consideration because they or a relative have a badge. I also mentioned that i see a lot of people that park in the very few spaces at some of my supermarkets without what appears any reason to do so. I also recall someone saying it's not allowed that you just park and display the badge and then just sit there.

I am not attacking or critcising people with a need, I am complaining about people that abuse the system. No i don't know their full story - and neither do you. They could well be the badge owner that lets their able bodied friend or partner go to the shops. They might not be. But i bet that this abuse happens. Unfortunately there are too few spaces available where i live for people with disabilities. But on the other hand its not all about being closest to the shop, there are often spacer closer, just not as wide. I have never challenged anyone with a badge and would never do so, but I can still have an opinion of the few that take advantage. It does mean that anyone with a real reason is being accused.

I have also mentioned that i have members of my family that rely on these badges so I know full well how it affects their lives and the disablilties they live with day to day, year in year out.

*Why should a disabled person be expected to behave like a saint and give up the space they are allowed to park in?

Just in case someone needs it more than them?*

Why not? If "someone needs it more".....

So if you took the last seat on a crowded train, and someone seriously needed it more that you, you would sit there and and think, I have every right to this seat

feelinghappynow the horse is dead. You can stop flogging it now.

But you wouldnt NOT sit on it just incase someone who needed it more than you happened to get on would you?

Because then no one would ever sit down park would they?

It's the bizarrest line of reasoning I've come across in a long while Mrs D. There will always be the potential of someone more in need turning up for every single parking space. Therefore nobody must park anywhere, just in case.

The thing that I would like to point out is this:

Most people who have a blue badge, unless their disability is so profoundly obvious, such as 'cannot walk at all' will already have second guessed themselves, had a Doctor support their application, had an application assessed, and had a badge issued. For 3 years, no matter what the condition, no matter how long it is expected to last, even if it is permanent.

DD1 (6.4) is exhausted at school, so much so that the teachers have asked me to get her reviewed several times. By lunch time, she is so very exhausted that they have to sit with her, feed her, and play games to try and get her to eat her lunch. She has a blue badge, and a SN buggy.

Yet, she will be bombing around if you see her getting out the car. She has no sense of danger, would walk out in front of a car without a thought. She has no understanding of 'pacing herself', which means that she will run rather than walk if she can, no matter how tired. It takes a lot more energy for her to run, because she has low muscle tone and poor balance. Even as a baby, she would amaze people, because she was either 'on' or 'off'.

What would you see? You would see a quirky little girl who is quite naughty, not doing as she's told.

Without that badge I couldn't take her out anywhere with her sisters. I can't keep them all safe. It's life. But the worst thing is seeing people judging her, judging me, judging my parenting.

Yesterday I was parked (legally) in a disabled parking spot outside Boots, just along from the P & T spaces, as I walked back to the car I heard a car park attendant say to a taxi driver, who was parked in a P & T space, if you don't move from there I am giving you a £65 fine! Good to know.

feelinghappynow - I do get the point you are making on one level. Often when we go to Asda all of the disabled places are taken up and often there are a couple of people in the driver seat waiting. There is also adrop off/pick up point so I do think that people should move over there if possible.

Also think that the supermarket/traffic wardens should check blue badges a lot more as often ther are a couple of cars without any in.

they arn't they are a marketing ploy.

I wish people would stop being doctors that can decided who is and isn't disabeld.
if the BB holder gets out of the car, they can park in the disabled bay. it doesn't matter who stays in the car, as long as the BB holder doesn't/
guess what disabled people are normal, they are often married to normal people, normal people don't all like shopping.

P&T parking spaces are not legally enforceable. Neither, in fact, are "parking fines" given by traffic wardens on private property. They are an "invoice" for "breach of implied contract" dressed up to look like a fine - and whilst they are lawful to hand out, if you don't pay them, there's not much they can do and generally they don't go to court.