to love this disabled parking idea?

[Kladdkaka]

Because of this issues with non-blue badge holders parking in disabled spaces some Swedish municipalities are now replacing the usual disabled parking signs with ones that include the words 'LAZINESS IS NOT A DISABILITY'. I love it :o

But if you have someone to help you, why take up the space that may be needed by someone who has no help and needs it more than you? Thats what i don't get.

You do realise this means dh is right? I hate that! He printed the forms off about 6 months ago, looks like I better get my black pen out! Thanks for the advice and reassurance. I've been this way for 4 years, so I suppose it's time to accept i'm a wreck!

I don't get why I'm getting a bit of a flaming for suggesting some people have a great need for the spaces than others

I haven;t said all blue badge owners are fakes - i said I have witnessed people abusing the system and I don't like it.

You are being judgemental because what you see may not tally with the facts. You see someone sitting in the car and you assume they are the badge holder. Without inspecting their badge you don't know this.

As for the 'drop off' space. How does it help a disabled person to have access if they have to come out and then wait around for their driver to notice that they're out and then drive around and hope there's a space in the drop off point to collect them? What if at that moment there is no space and they can't stand any longer, you've taken away their ability to bring their activity to an end in a dignified way. Why can't they come out and go straight to their car like anyone else? What you are suggesting would be a barrier to me which would make my access, as a disabled person, more difficult than it already is.

Well, I don't know. Suppose you move away, how do you know when your other half needs picking up? (not everyone has, or can use, a mobile phone). Suppose you move and then when you want to pick up there's nowhere suitable to park and the disabled partner is left standing? Suppose the other half is liable to confusion and can't deal with any level of complexity in pick-up arrangements, or is partially sighted so would have difficulty locating a moved car or.....

feelinghappynow I went into hospital yesterday. On the way we popped into Tesco to allow me to buy some magazines and to get DS1 some lunch to take to college. DH was driving. He pulled into a disabled bay and I put my badge on the dash board. DS1 and I got out and went in to the store. DH waited in the car. There are no drop off points at our Tesco. As I am the disabled person and I left the vehicle I did nothing wrong. I did not abuse my badge or the space.

What should I have done? I can not be expected to follow the rules of my badge to the letter, but not use it just incase someone with a greater need than me comes along in the half hour I am in the shop!

Exactly - there are no drop off points at your store, you 'popped' in - you are not abusing the system. Had you parked there and used 'your' badge while your DH went in then I might think that would be abusing the system, as there would then be no real reason to take up the space.

Exactly feelinghappy and you don't know that that is not what every other person who is parking in a diasbled space and having their driver wait for them is doing!

well I could park in a disabled bay, gET dd out and go shopping, DH could wait in the van
dd is the bb holder, she is the one who needs the bay, would be useless for me to them have to go fetch the van to pick her up(dh doesn't drive)
as for judging someone, because they have a nice car and don't look frail, WTF

feelinghappy - I have a blue badge because I am severely visually impaired (also partly deaf).

Most of my shopping is done online, but sometimes I ask DH to drive me there and wait in the car with blue badge. He does a huge amount of things for me - if he also 'had' to walk me to and from the shop from a distant parking space and stand around while I was shopping, then I wouldn't do the shop - it would feel like too much trouble. He's my husband, but he shouldn't have to be my guide dog.

As someone said - being dropped off and picked up is very difficult for someone visually impaired - I need to know my route to/from the car, and it needs to be pretty short!

If research can one day cure my eyesight, the first thing I would do is learn to drive. And I wouldn't care how far away the car park was from the shop, I would be so delighted to have that independence.

Yes I do, cos Ive been in the supermarket and seem them pushig a massice trolly loaded with shopping up and come out the same time as me. Hubby parked there when i go in for the weekly shop and the woman coming out with me with a trolly full!

I'm not making it up or over exaggerating. As I;ve said - some people will always abuse a genuine useful system - I'm not saying all blue badge owners

And fwiw my parents and in laws have them too, so before you all think i live in aperfect world you are very much mistaken. mum has complained about the abuse at her local supermarket a number of times and sod all is done about it

feeling, why was that woman necessarily abusing the system? I have a blue badge but I can push a trolley (though I do bump into a few people/things...) You wouldn't necessarily know to look at me that I am severely visually impaired.

Seriously, I don't know how you manage with those judgey pants pulled so high. They must be cutting.

I can manage a massive trolly loaded with shopping sometimes. In fact a massive trolly makes shopping easier. It means I can leave my walking frame in the boot and lean on the trolly instead.

STOP JUDGING PEOPLE!!!!!!! YOU DON'T KNOW SHIT ABOUT THEIR CIRCUMSTANCES.

Because I don't see why she needs to have dh sitting in the car for an hour, when other people might need the space too.

Silly me for assuming some people might have a greater need than others.

And by the way Kladdkaka i haven't judged you or your situation, mearly commenting on people I see that i think are taking advantage.

Perhaps I shouldn't give a crap that there are people in my local area that take advatage and therefore put others in a crap situation. I'll mind my business and juts look out for myself then, and not give a stuff if i think other people are being hard done to!

Or you could just mind your own business and stop feeling so resentful of a sodding car space!

Because I don't see why she needs to have dh sitting in the car for an hour, when other people might need the space too.

Silly me for assuming some people might have a greater need than others.

The key word is there. 'Silly me for assuming ...'

And by the way Kladdkaka i haven't judged you or your situation, mearly commenting on people I see that i think are taking advantage.

How do you know it wasn't me? Or someone just like me? You don't.

Perhaps I shouldn't give a crap that there are people in my local area that take advatage and therefore put others in a crap situation. I'll mind my business and juts look out for myself then, and not give a stuff if i think other people are being hard done to!

Perhaps you should listen to the people who genuinely use the system in this thread and accept what they are saying, that you're righteous indignation on their behalf actually makes their life harder.

feelinghappy I think you are feeling put upon because your intentions are good. But you take it from us badge holders that you cannot judge situations in the way you are doing.

Eg you see a car pull up and park in a disabled space. A badge is slapped down. A young family gets out. The man hoists a young boy on his shoulders and away they walk. Abuse, right? They don't look disabled right? But it's us. And if my ds's trousers ride up you can see his splints but other than that you cannot tell that he cannot walk. But he still can't.

It depends. The car park we usually use usually has some spaces taken by people waiting in the car. They could pull over to the side, no further for disabled passenger to walk, allowing us to park and all get out and leave. That is selfish of them imo. But not if there's nowhere else to wait for the badge holder

Further to my previous post. Yes I know people have invisible conditions. I have one myself. Sometimes it means I cant leave the house.

I dont deserve a blue badge because like the man in Weymouth I really can walk 500 yards without too much trouble. I really do think that disabled parking spaces should be reserved for the most severely disabled like my friend who really cannot get more than 50 yards except by wheel chair.

I can walk really well from the car to get a trolley AS LONG AS I USE A DISABLED SPACE SO I AM NEAR ENOUGH, then I can lean on trolley to steady myself. I bet you'd judge if you saw me.

JuliaScurr so if I do that, where do you suggest I leave dd, when I drop her off pick her up?

My last post is hideously ungrammatical and badly expressed