to have declined a dietician untill my morning sickness eases a bit?

[Hoebag]

as a pg woman with a bigger bmi I have been referred to a dietician or I can be referred.

I asked the midwife would this require more appointments and she said yes, I aid to her that I would happily do it but not yet.

I'm suffering severely with morning sickness , 3-5 times a day and it impairs how long I can stand up for somedays I'm forced to crawl around.
and I'm purely relying on bands for relief. so attending more appointments may sometimes not be possible.
plus I'll just be regurgitating what I eat.

She was quite put out saying 'its irresponsible to wait' but I do really dont see another option as they wont prescribe me anything.

AIBU to decline this until my MS eases a bit??

I can't imagine how hard it would be to look after a toddler whilst feeling so ill.

I think MS does ease for a lot of people however I had morning sickness all through pregnancy. It might be worth agreeing to see the dietitian and see how you feel when the appointment comes through. They may be able to give advice regarding MS?

Hope you feel better soon.

She was being quite rude though in alot of ways worra , she knows I've been refused meds which is quite unprofessional considering how Ill I am , I did say I can only do so much but if I'm being denied meds not much I can do.

Phone calls are a good Idea I may look into that.

Hoebag MS is grim beyond grim, being sick 3-5 times daily isn't though that severe. Horrid beyond horrid yes, awful when you have another to look after but IME not at the kind of levels where drugs are usually used.

Speak to a different GP and get more info, it's not necessarily that you are being denied drugs just that the risk of medication is much more than the risks posed by your sickness. If you feel your GP has misunderstood do return.

Yes my friend's DD was only prescribed meds for MS because she was sick all through the day and night and ended up in hospital on a drip twice.

The meds didn't agree with her or the baby and sadly she lost him

I think you're quite early in this pregnancy aren't you?

Hopefully it'll pass after the 3 month mark...maybe that's what they're waiting to see before prescribing?

Sorry for hijack but how much morning sickness is severe morning sickness? With DS1 I was puking probably 5+ times an hour when I was awake and waking up and puking 2-3 times a night too. Lost a stone a week in weeks 7-9 but with a bmi of 32 I could afford to. GP and midwife said it was normal and what every pregnant woman goes through. With DS3 I felt nauseous constantly and puked about 5 times a day. I mentioned it to the same GP when she asked how the pregnancy was going at 28 weeks but just in conversation and she said I had hyperemisis and offered me anti - emetics. I declined as I thought the sickness was on its way out but I was a bit about being told puking 5+ times an hour was normal but 5 times a day was hyperemisis.

I declined. I was referred for having such digestion problems I can't eat very well unless it is highly refined. McDs is fine as is other easily digestible stuff but not healthy. High fibre hangs around too long and makes me I'll.

What woukd a dietician do? Tell me to stop eating refined carbs and more protien and fibre!

Waste of everyone's time!

Btw all pg I just go to GP and ask for meds. I don't even throw up much just suffer the nausea.

I tell them it is so bad I can't function enough to feed my kids or get them to school. It's true.

Forgot to add that I was offered a dietician referral when I was pg with DS3. I declined as I was already losing weight, trying to eat healthy and exercise. I already had DS2 with SN and a million appointments plus DS1 to take to school and I didn't think I could manage another load of appointments.

Hmm I am open to having a dietician appointment but at the same I'm quite angry that one very serious health problem is being totally ignored and they seem to pick and choose when they want to actually...be a health professional.

Agree to disagree holy like I've said I'm happy to take the advice but sometimes I cannot physically walk and a phone call or something would be fine.

picking and choosing suggests i have some control over being debilitated by MS and I dont.

Only you can help yourself. You are being offered support - whether or not you take it is up to you. You can be sick and fat and have help with neither, or sick and fat and have help with part of that in the hope it will make your delivery a lot better and give your baby a better start in life. Its your choice and no skin off the midwives nose if you don't take it.

I know that sounds harsh but its true. She isn't referring you for her health, but for yours.

Hmm I am open to having a dietician appointment but at the same I'm quite angry that one very serious health problem is being totally ignored and they seem to pick and choose when they want to actually...be a health professional

But you're only a few weeks pregnant aren't you?

I'm sure they know what they're doing and are probably waiting for at least 3 months to pass.

I was sick lots of times every day and night and could not walk up and down stairs without another adult around because I was so dizzy. It was very difficult with a toddler but the midwife just told me I had to get on with it. Then after 3 months (when the morning sickness then went) I had the routine tests and they had a go at me for being in ketosis and said that I was starving myself. No, I was just vomiting everything back up.

So you have my sympathy. I don't know how people who are being constantly sick work all day when they pregnant, or even manage to travel to work in the first place.

YABU.
A dietician will be able to help you with regards healthy nutrition for you AND your baby through out your pregnancy - even WITH MS when it is even more important to ensure that you adequately norished and hydrated.

All this bullshit about it being normal and what everyone goes through is just that!

People have wildly different experiences. I have had any number of people tell me about their awful MS and when I sympathise and tell them what I went through they are all 'Oh god it was nothing like that!'

Even while I was on a drip in hospital, the other cunty women on the ward were all 'yeah I had morning sickness but you just have to get on with it don't you?'

I was too knackered to point out that my work would hardly appreciate me going in attached to a drip...or puking all over the chemistry lab for that matter.

So do not listen to anyone saying get over it, or anyone saying it is normal. The level you are experiencing is not normal.

I fear this is yet another area where if it were happening to men it would get taken seriously. As it is we seem to get treated like we are moaning minnies rather than suffering from a debilitating illness that if untreated can cause serious health issues.

sea some women seem to be able to vomit without really feeling nauseous. It is that and the physical effects of dehydration that cause the problems not the physical act of throwing up....which I found to be like sneezing and actually a bit of a break from teh all consuming nauseousness.

The thing is that whilst ms makes you feel dreadful it doesn't usually have any real impact on health. Obesity doesn't feel like an illness but can lead to health complications for you and your baby.

One issue impacts massively on quality of life but your hps are probably right about which impacts more on the health of your pregnancy.

Again the health impact of MS can be very severe indeed - it all depends on the severity of the MS. For average MS I would agree that the BMI issue takes precedence. For someone with severe MS suffering from severe dehydration the reverse is true.

I think it makes sense to accept the referral. Even if you still have morning sickness by the time you've seen the dietician and received your diet plan, you'll have the plan for when your sickness is over and you can start doing whatever it is you need to do.

Alot of the advice here is good but some need to read my posts.

I have NEVER said I dont want a dietician I am just wondering how I will physically get there with suffering so severely with MS .

yeah I am only a few weeks but its very debilitating so extra support is needed and its infruriating when I am begging for help and its not being headed.

Dehydration etc is symptomatic of hg which is of course dangerous. Usually these mothers are sick many more times than 3 to 5 times a day.

I wouldn't want to make light of either condition as they are horrid, as I said upthread somewhere the op should return to her hps if she feels they haven't addressed her concerns. But as described her ms probably doesn't fit the hg category.

You got to see your mw, your Gp, you probably get to things for your child so you plan appointments in making time for sleep, food, sickness as appropriate and try. If it is a bad day you cancel and remake or negotiate for phone contact etc.

If the support you need is medical go back, if practical and emotional call in favours be honest with friends and family.

Hopefully you will find a way to make it more manageable and feel better soon

I just don't see the point of telling someone who has said several times that the condition is debilitating and causing her to struggle severely with everyday life that you don't think she 'qualifies' as sick enough by some arbitrary standard.

If HCP's (and others) could stop seeing tick boxes and start listening to actual people telling them their actual experiences, then health care and life in general would be a whole lot better.

I was only being sick 5-6 times a day until the day before my hospital admission when it ramped up to 5-6 times an hour. When I got in I was in a serious mess that I am sure had hardly anything to do with the last night of uber-sickness.

EVERYONE IS DIFFERENT. 'usually' is the work of the devil.

hoebag, are there any foods you can keep down and give you a bit of relief from morning sickenss? I found that muesli was something I could eat and keep down, also ready salted crisps.