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to wonder if school staff rooms involve much parent bashing?

215 replies

lottielou39 · 16/04/2012 23:54

A comment below (in the thread about childcare being too expensive for people to do poorly paid part time work) from someone who worked in a nursery and said the weekly meetings were mostly about parent bashing, got me wondering. What are school staff rooms really like? I'd love to be a fly on the wall. Are parents slagged off on a daily basis? Which parents cause the most dread? Is it ever possible for a parent to have a valid gripe (in the eyes of the school staff room) or are they always stupid and annoying?

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hattymattie · 17/04/2012 20:50

Ilove- Shock - especially when you say she is the norm!

LikeARollingStone · 17/04/2012 20:51

Unfortunately the requirements for becoming a teacher are too low right now. It should be given the same stringent rules as a clinical psychologist/doctor or lawyer.

TheFallenMadonna · 17/04/2012 20:52

Eh?

LikeARollingStone · 17/04/2012 20:56

Teaching plays a significant role in the future generation, how it is possible that anyone can do it with a conversion course alone. I know a couple of people who have purely done it for the holidays etc, they don't like even like. Holstein, let alone want to help them achieve their potential... Too many shit teachers... I'm not saying any of you are shit, I'm just saying it happens and nothing is done.

daisymaybe · 17/04/2012 20:57

@LikeARollingStone What are the requirements to become a teacher?

LikeARollingStone · 17/04/2012 20:59

I know a few people who have done it based on a previous degree and a conversion course with some placements? Am I missing something?

LikeARollingStone · 17/04/2012 21:00

That should have said 'don't even like children'

Almacks · 17/04/2012 21:00

Wondering if DH is considered a Hot Dad...I think he is, but I'm biased!

So, just supposing a parent was pretty flaky, often forgot stuff, was usually late and sometimes had Opinions on stuff, but then also generally remembered to help with h/wk, helped on PTA and gave teachers nice presents from tome to time, where would she stand in the staffroom? Just theoretically, of course...Wink Grin Blush

sassytheFIRST · 17/04/2012 21:01

Hey rolling stone, as a teacher with excellent A levels and degree from an old university I could have chosen any number of pathways but went with teaching.

Just a thought, for people who don't have my sense of vocation, if you want to impose entry qualifications similar to lawyers and doctors, you'd probably have to up the pay. Quite a lot.

£65k or more? Yes please.

LikeARollingStone · 17/04/2012 21:03

It's like when you have threads from teachers asking advice from parents on an individual child's situation, on mn. So unprofessional IMO.

LikeARollingStone · 17/04/2012 21:04

Teaching should be based primarily in science and knowledge not anecdote.

daisymaybe · 17/04/2012 21:04

Yes, you're missing any real knowledge of what happens in the course of teacher training and what happens subsequently. Which is unfortunate since you're now spouting forth based on talking to "a few people."

LikeARollingStone · 17/04/2012 21:05

Well I agree, teachers should be paid more and be better qualified...

sassytheFIRST · 17/04/2012 21:05

Teaching should be based on science, not anecdote.

Ironic? Maybe?

LikeARollingStone · 17/04/2012 21:08

Plead don't try to tell me current teacher training is adequate... I'm not saying its not adequate for people who really believe in the vocation and are intelligent and ambitious enough to make it a success but not everyone is. Same as any profession, except, in most you get sacked if you are not up to standard.

StarshitTerrorise · 17/04/2012 21:08

I know that teaching practice is not based on research, science or evidence!

I know that pedagogy is rarely taught.

I know that shit teachers rarely fail their teaching practice!

LikeARollingStone · 17/04/2012 21:10

I'm allowed to have an opinion. I'm sure others agree, what about Michael gove?

StarshitTerrorise · 17/04/2012 21:11

I know that SN, ALL of them, are taught in a poorly attended half day session and yet inclusion is high on the education agenda.

Not teachers faults of course, but what IS their fault is their refusal to accept that many parents are more knowledgable and 'expert' on how their child can learn.

Panzee · 17/04/2012 21:12

LikeARollingStone "I know a few people who have done it based on a previous degree and a conversion course with some placements? Am I missing something?" Not at all - that's how lawyers are made too.

LikeARollingStone · 17/04/2012 21:13

Thank you star at least someone can be bothered to post their thoughts openly.

echt · 17/04/2012 21:13

Previous degree, conversion course and some placements? That sounds like PGCE. What's wrong with that?

daisymaybe · 17/04/2012 21:14

What do you mean by "teaching practice" in the first sentence?

It sounds like you've had a pretty bad experience with teachers in your child's education but what you're describing in terms of training is so far away from my experience.

LikeARollingStone · 17/04/2012 21:14

At is definetly not how lawyers are made. Yes you might have the academic qualifications but you don't necessary get the life changing jobs... My point exactly.

Panzee · 17/04/2012 21:16

Yes it is - I was nearly one before I changed my mind.

SherlockGnomes · 17/04/2012 21:16

nooo panzee dont be daft, lawyers are hatched from an egg cradled in the mouth of serberus (sp) for 1000 years. Tis common knowledge.

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