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to feel seething resentment towards those who profited from the house price bubble and hot anger at the Governments who allowed it to happen?

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TartyMcFarty · 13/04/2012 21:15

You'll have to forgive my naivety here - I'm ranting about something I don't really understand.

DH and I are stuck. In 2006 we bought a (modest) property on a 100% mortgage. Foolish in hindsight, I know, but based on the advice of our IFA, the unshakeable faith of our families and society that property ownership was the way to go, and the increasing pressure at the time to get on the ladder or miss out, that was the decision we made. We then found that the lender, bastard bastard Northern Rock were unwilling to remortgage based on our lack of equity, despite us having overpaid by several thousand pounds. We couldn't shift the place, and with the agreement of a different IFA, remortgaged against the equity in my DM's property (love her!). It gets more complicated than that, but that's all that's needed here. Now we still can't sell it , our tax credits have suddenly disappeared, my pension contribution has increased (DH doesn't even have a pension) and the tracker rate is slowly increasing. We're on interest only, and as I'm part time since the having DD, with another DC on the way, there's not much of a cushion.

What's really angered me over the last couple of days is the dawning realisation of how people just a few years older than us have profited from the massive increase in property 'values'. I'm still in touch with our ex-neighbour. She bought seven years earlier than us, sold at £120k profit after 10 years (this is not London!), her partner was in a similar situation so they have ended up comfortably in a property of twice the size, renovated to a really lovely standard. Obviously my resentment isn't directed at them personally - they're good people, have profited from a stupid market and good luck to them - but it's just an illustration.

How can we possibly hope to survive in a property market that boomed by more than 3.5x in this instance alone? We can't even afford to maintain our own home to a good standard. Pay isn't moving at all, and we're currently looking at less than .75 of a pension between us. I can't even bear to think about how we'll support our DCs through HE, and the risk to my DM's home if interest rates shoot up.

I just need a rant. Those of us stupid enough to be sucked in at high LTV rates towards the peak of the market are fucked all ways, whereas people just 5 years older than us are untouchable. I know I've only given one example for which I know the exact figures, but there are others I can think of in the same lucky situation. There just doesn't seem to be any point in trying when you compare our situation with those who profited so enormously in the 00s.

Angry Angry Angry Angry Angry Angry

OP posts:
badtasteflump · 18/06/2012 14:22

YANBU. If hear one more smug old fart tell me they bought their house for 50p and now it's worth a million, I will fart in their face.

redshield · 18/06/2012 14:44

Or you could tell them the real reason its now worth a million, this would remove the divide and conquer bit the government rely on and the whole pyramid scheme would start to fall apart.

If everybody is shouting at each other then nobody is shouting at the government.

redshield · 24/06/2012 12:22

I mentioned this a while back and it now seems to have hit the mainstream media www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2163773/Cameron-axe-housing-benefits-feckless-25s-declares-war-welfare-culture.html.

Things like this start to happen when a fiat monetary system is close to the point of collapse.

I hope everything works out ok for those affected by the "technical hitch" at the banks as well, lots of people are saying some of the banks have had a margin call now that they have been downgraded so needed extra money fast to stay solvent. No actual evidence that this has happened but now i know how our fiat monetary and banking system work i have already emptied my accounts a while ago because i now know that i would be a fool to trust them. Plus if i left my savings in a bank i would be part of the problem.

yellowraincoat · 24/06/2012 12:26

It is also becoming impossible to rent in London. My partner and I both work full-time, reasonably decent jobs (although mine pays pretty badly, but still way above minimum wage) and we can't save anything.

People can't get a mortgage so they stay renting which pushes the rent price way up.

It's ridiculous to be honest.

redshield · 24/06/2012 12:37

Well it was always going to end this way and to be honest i can only see things getting a whole lot worse. The government have been and will carry on doing everything they can to prop up the housing market because if it sees a collapse then the banks will take a hit they cant survive. I cant see how they can avoid a collapse though.

The worst part of all what is going on is that the vast majority of the population are completely oblivious to how bad a state our economy is in, the uninformed are in for the same rough ride the uninformed argentinians had when their fiat monetary system does what all fiat monetary systems do at some point.

redshield · 24/06/2012 14:20

SSSSSSHHHHHHHHHHHH You might wake somebody up.

quoteunquote · 24/06/2012 15:41

tee hee,

interesting album.

redshield · 24/06/2012 20:27

www.zerohedge.com/contributed/2012-06-23/forget-piigs-eu-whole-insolvent

Looks like the UK are out in the lead.

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