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to think that most of us have worked behind a bar/ in a factory/supermarket/ as a cleaner at some point, HAVEN'T we?????

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bejeezus · 10/04/2012 18:22

Came up in conversation today in the office, that I have worked as a barmaid; my colleagues where Shock and I was equally Shock that non of them have...I thought EVERYONE had worked behind a bar at some point in their life???

Ive had variousjobsinmylife, including factory work, working in kitchens, dog kennels, cleaning, callcentres; and now Im a professional

it gotme thinking--i went to uni and worked holidays/ evenings and weekends...now i think about it, hardly anyone else did that!

Am reading 'Chavs' at the minute and the author makes that very point....very large majorityof politicians have never done that kind of job and so cannot relate to the working classes AT ALL. It really hit home, how very far removed from normal folk, politicians are these days

But,most of yous have done/do these kind ofjobs-right?

OP posts:
missingmumxox · 11/04/2012 00:26

I didn't cityhopper, boast anyway, and I can't say I noticed many who did but yes the job market has changed so my cousins/nephews/neices who are 15 years plus younger than me, these have been the only jobs they can get, but funnily enough where ever in the country they live they have all found jobs from 16 plus whilst at college, uni or this is my life jobs, I have family in Easterhouse Scotland all working, I use this, as this is an arse end place to live and find work (and it was them who told me this not my opinion), Nephew's in Barnsley who are working one in a petrol station, one as a cleaner, they are 20 and 23, my cousins in the South East one has never found a proper job as it where, but she has always worked she is 25 now, chamber maid, pub, waitress, cornish pastie shop place, I and cousins Mum both realised how much life had changed last summer when she got a salaried job, and after hunting through her contract she asked "where is my hourly rate? " that was sad she was 25 and never had that or regular hours.
nephew in Glasgow working whilst at college, my 18 year old cousin works in his holidays as a builders labourer on his collage hoildays, (just like my DH did) he is training to be a carpenter or joiner,? I get confused,
on the point or It is all down to circumstance and largely what your parents decide for you, and a job is not the only way to have responsibility and empathy for others in a different situation than you. I didn't quite understand this, as from 16 you can have a job and appart from cig/alcohol and marrage you are and adult, my Mum in the 60's at 17 went against her parents wishes and became a student nurse, the hospital in those days became in loco parentis, didn't work in all case but did in my Mums and My mums family had a pile of money and their own business, which wasn't just a small concern, factories in South africa, canada, australia, belguim, midlands, kent/london, so I could play the posh card, as in up until my grandad sold the business to a multinational, I could have worked there, just didn't both my parents at times worked for the company, but moved on. I actually don't see anything wrong in nepotism, so long as it doesn't trap someone in a work situation they don't want, one of my summer lacky jobs was just that, daughter of the boss, but I was still expected to work hard and was put in a place with no family in the department, believe me they didn't give me any favours.
work is work and these days sahm/students do ebay, boot fairs, working people do the same on top of their job, I am not saying where you live it isn't tough but if you use you imagination you can make pin money.
My DH has been unemployed for 4 months now, mid 40s professional. but he realises that e-bay is the way to suppliment our income at the mo, we have a ton oh shite, we don't claim benefits yet, but if he didn't do this then I will admit we would have to, but I have the belief that if you don't need to claim them don't because their will be someone worse off than yourself who does, but I think that is where we have lost our way that some believe it is a right not a help in hand in times of trouble.
good god I go on don't I? :)

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hallelujahheisrisen · 11/04/2012 01:16

housekeeping in a hotel and cashier in a supermarket. thought more or less everyone did at some point.

Codandchops · 11/04/2012 03:09

I spent nearly all my working life as a nurse BUT I worked behind the tills in Tesco as a Saturday job when in college and in a factory while waiting to start my nurse training. I think many people have done the same in various capacities. I agree that too many politicians have not the first idea how normal people live.

AGunInMyPetticoat · 11/04/2012 03:43

I've worked as ...

a shop assistant
a waitress
a hotel receptionist

... all not considered particularly high flying careers. I'm now a professional.

Yes, it's completely normal.

piazilla · 11/04/2012 04:25

I worked as a waitress, convenience store assistant and high street shop assistant, factory worker and lifeguard.I also worked in a pub - all of this was before I 21. My parents mantra throughout all of this was : if you think you are tired now - think of how you would feel in your 50s being on your feet all day. Now - what are you going to do for the rest of your life? Funnily enough, I still ended up in a career where I was on my feet all day - albeit not carrying trays of food and drinks!

ifancyashandy · 11/04/2012 06:12

We don't all use the word love

Jeeze, just a light hearted comment from when I was a an impressionable twenty year old.

Chippy?!

Oh no, we didnt serve those....

CheerfulYank · 11/04/2012 06:17

Yup. Bookshop, housekeeping, sandwich shop, childcare...now I work in a school and also clean and sell popcorn at our local cinema. Glamorous! :)

naughtymummy · 11/04/2012 06:17

Super interesting thread OP will definately get Chavs( had not heard of it before). From 14-24 (long training) I worked in 2 hairdressers,a dry cleaners,babysat,worked in anursery and a carehome.
My dh who is a bit of a toff, did these types of jobs in his gap year and says the experience was invaluable.
We have discussed it and plan to keep the dcs deliberately short of cash in their teenage.years as working for money teaches them such important lessons that are hard to come by elsewhere.

Vixter239 · 11/04/2012 06:59

Done bar, kitchen, fast food, various office jobs, including manager, supermarket and paper delivery. Means I can pretty much talk to anyone and comes in handy when a company tries to give you bad customer service!

squeakytoy · 11/04/2012 07:13

I have worked in a factory on the production line, taxi office, betting shop, numerous bars, petrol station, and double glazing office, all as part time or evening jobs while I was at college or to supplement my income while working at my normal full time job too.

At 15 I was working 5 nights a week in my small local petrol station as a cashier (in the 80's long before employment law put a stop to such things!).

I am always Shock now when I read of parents who are working their fingers to the bone to fund their teenagers lifestyles as my parents did not have the money to do that for me, and it was up to me to go out and earn it if I wanted it. So I did.

TwllBach · 11/04/2012 07:39

I'm 24 now and have worked for the last ten years doing jobs like that. I have a professional degree now but am struggling to find relevant work, so will continue to do work like that because I need the money. In order, since 14 I have:

Worked as a stable girl - shocking money but good when you're 14 :) did it. Till I was 18 and have never been as fit again Sad
Checkout girl from 16 - 18
Various retail jobs from 18 - 21 through uni
Then through my teacher training course (three years) I had two jobs, one in a shop and the other in a bed and breakfast where I cleaned, waitressed and worked on reception. This is what I'm doing now.

I genuinely hate it most of the time but even in a small, deprived welsh town I have managed to be given and turn down 4 jobs since Christmas. I believe that because of the experiences I've had thanks to all the jobs I've done, employers can see my work ethic etc. I have a lot of friends who never had to work while at school and through uni and they can't even get shop work, which is a scary thought. Luckily for them they still live at home - if that was me, DP and I would be up shit creek.

I've always said that I would expect my children to work like I did, but I would prefer them to do it for the experience and not because they had to financially IYsWIM?

AfricanExport · 11/04/2012 08:07

Newspaper Delivery
Restaurant waitress - lasted one night - broke my foot playing hockey the next day!
Supermarket - shelf packing
College - Admin
Office - general Dogs-body

I do like the dad who only gave pocket money equal to money earned. I am going to give that one a bash... well now now as that would simply be cruel and I would have Child Labour people after me.. but when they are a bit older...

Bonkerz · 11/04/2012 08:13

I've worked
milk round age 10,
pizza shop,
Kebab shop
Private cleaner
Pub
Waitressing
Cafe
Factory making air fresheners
Factory making Jo Malone stuff
Nursery
Nanny
Delivering flowers
Childminder

Anything that bought in some money if I'm honest

KateSpade · 11/04/2012 08:18

I have worked:
Behind a bar - a very dodgy one that sold drugs, which i didn't realise what they were doing till i was leaving...
cleaner
waitress
In subway
Shop Assistant

I'm now doing work experience in my degree field, hoping it'll help me get a job, i went back to work 12 weeks after having DD, she's 6mo now. It's bloody hard work, but theirs no way I'm giving up everything in my life to be a SAHM.

I got my first job a few months after i turned 16 and have been working ever since, my mum and dad help me out all they can with money, but theirs still things i can't afford, a car for example. (I can't drive anyway due to epilepsy, but in january i can drive again)

The sad fact is, if i do get a job after i graduate, fingers crossed, the nursery fees (£700 a month) will take the majority of my wage, and i still won't be able to afford anything. I'd have so much more money if i gave up and went on benefits, i'd probably get my own house then swell, but its not for me.

suburbandream · 11/04/2012 08:21

Interesting thread, haven't read it all yet! I think many of us in our 30s and 40s will have done those kind of jobs, but times have changed and they are not so easy to get hold of now. I had a paper round, then when much older did waitressing in between college and "proper" jobs. When I was a teenager in the 80s, most of my friends had Saturday jobs in places like Saxone and Dorothy Perkins. I was v.jealous of their staff discount as my parents had their own business and I was paid £1 an hour to clean their workshop on a Saturday! My sister complained about my Dad's low wages one weekend and stomped off down the high street, she came back an hour or so later saying she'd got herself a job in the dry cleaners Grin. Most of my friends who went to Uni got jobs in bars/waitressing, etc. We nearly all did stints fruit picking too.

funkybuddah · 11/04/2012 08:31

out of those ive only done cleaning, amazing when i was at college and brilliantly paid.

However I have worked in retail since my 16th birthday (im 30) as I love retail work and customers (even cuntstomers) and im going to have to end my retail career soon as the hours will become a pain.

AngelDog · 11/04/2012 08:36

Only if you count my mum paying me to do the cleaning at home as a teenager.

LadyClariceCannockMonty · 11/04/2012 08:37

LeQueen, I see shop assistants doing the chest-folding manoeuvre while holding the garment under their chin; is that how you were trained to do it? I'm really envious. I'd love to be able to do that.

Bonsoir · 11/04/2012 08:38

No, I have absolutely never done any of those jobs. When I was at school I babysat (for the children of friends of my parents). My first non-babysitting job was working in a beauty salon, answering the telephone, making appointments, installing customers etc. Thereafter I worked in offices doing various different roles.

RichManPoorManBeggarmanThief · 11/04/2012 08:38

I've done all of the above during my school/ university days plus paper rounds. Bar work was best, then cleaning houses. Worked in a chemist for years in the holidays/ at weekends and that was fine too. Supermarket was awful (but that was just that specific supermarket to be fair- it smelt of off milk and was full of winos). Factory work was the pits- putting Body Shop soap through the wrapper all bloody day for 6 weeks in a bogging-hot summer.

I always laugh when we have the "you cant have a cleaner cos it's degrading work" threads. I'm like "try working in the Body Shop factory. you'll bite off an arm for a cleaning job after a week of that"

cubscout · 11/04/2012 08:38

Very interesting thread. I agree with surburban, most people of my age (late 40's) had a variety of jobs during our teenage and university years. I worked in a kennels, cake shop, bar, cleaning a school, (was always v jealous too of friends with Sat jobs in clothes shops!) did stints fruit picking and selling ice creams on a beach in France to fund an extension to a holiday. It was a right of passage and expected if you wanted your own income and gave me an understanding of how the 'real world' really worked.

I know a lot of really resourceful teenagers who work regularly from 14, baby sitting, cat feeding, dog walking as well as the more usual paper rounds/retail work. Equally I know many unrealistic teenagers who do not work and expect to somehow breeze into uni and walk out with a great job at the end. I have my own views of which group will be better prepared in the scramble for jobs that many of our young people face.

QuintessentialShadows · 11/04/2012 08:39

"Factory making Jo Malone stuff"

La la la, I am not listening!

Stuff like that are made by fairies in quaint country cottages, with windows overlooking fields of poppies and buttercups, surely! Not factories sob.

Bartiimaeus · 11/04/2012 08:46

I've worked in a shop, reception of a campsite, as a chambermaid and at a supermarket till. All before the age of 20 and whilst studying. Am now a professional and think it's helped me with my work ethic and also to appreciate what I have.

I was horrified when out once with some friends and they were being horrible to the poor waiter who got the order wrong (it was his first day in an extremely loud and busy bar). I said "we've all been there" and it turned out that no, I was the only one to have worked (we were 20) Shock

MoreBeta · 11/04/2012 08:51

Never worked in a shop/bar but cleaned a lot of muck out of various sheds where animals are kept for years and worked for a while sand blasting dirt off buildings.

Its not a life skill - just a job but agree with others it embeds a sense of what really hard, poorly paid work really is.

Most politicians have no sense of what that is.