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to want to take my pushchair into my doctors surgery?

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gillquil · 09/04/2012 22:39

my g.p surgery has just banned pushchairs, I've them a letter that follows, is this the norm? or should I just change our G.P.?

Hello,

I would like to make a complaint about the forthcoming ban on pushchairs in the surgery from the first of April. I am a mother of three, my eldest child has just turned four and we have a double pushchair which we normally use for our two youngest. My youngest child has just turned one, and as is typical for his age, he wants to crawl and climb all the time, he definitely doesn?t want to sit on my lap while I wait, he will however normally wait happily in his pushchair, or sleep in it while we wait or during our appointments. My two year old daughter just wants to run around.

If I am unable to bring my pushchair into the surgery I am going to have to let my son crawl over the floor in the surgery which I can?t imagine being the most hygienic thing to do. Or when he is asleep I will have to wake him, and what if both he and his sister are sleeping? do I really want to wait for my appointment struggling with a sobbing two year old daughter and a crying one year old son, my handbag, and changing bag on the floor or on the seat next to me. All of which, toddler, and baby and baggage have to then be carried into the appointment. I would also like to know what is suggested for mothers who need for example to have their young child with them during say a smear test? Should I leave him to crawl around the floor in the surgery during this?

Parents that I know often rely on being able to entertain a young child or children in a pushchair so that they can speak to their G.P. or nurse for a few minutes uninterrupted. Or the child sleeps on through their appointment and waiting time, and the parent can have a proper conversation or treatment.
I don?t have the option of arranging childcare for the times when I need to come to the surgery, especially as we normally ring at 8 a.m to see what appointment we can get if any for that morning.

I asked about the security of the area that has been designated for pushchairs to be left. As far as the lady I spoke to knew, there is none, it seems that the surgery is relying on the area being ?out of sight.? I disagree anyone walking past will be able to see a row of unsecured pushchairs. Pushchairs cost as I am sure you know an enormous amount of money. We live close by and two of my neighbours have had pushchairs stolen from outside their own front doors in the last six months, and we had a child?s scooter taken ourselves. It was suggested also that I buy a bicycle style lock for our chair, but I can?t see what I would secure it to.

While I can see the need for some sort solution to the congestion in the waiting room, as a result of parents and children who are patients at XXX Surgery using pushchairs, I don?t feel that just telling people their only option is to leave their pushchairs outside, in an unsecured area, and carry in their child or children and changing bags, handbags and who knows even their shopping, is acceptable. In fact I think it?s discriminatory. I have spoken to several mothers today who are patients at XXX, as are their children, and they all agree, and have said they will be putting forward their comments also.

I look forward to your reply and hope that XXX can be a bit more creative in finding a solution that doesn?t leave patients feeling unwelcome.

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SardineQueen · 10/04/2012 16:05

How on EARTH has this got to spaces for people who use wheelchairs on buses?

Is it not allowed to have a conversation about how some women with young children find it difficult / impossible to access basic healthcare services? Or is that not a topic that gets everyone nice and angry enough?

margoandjerry · 10/04/2012 16:06

I know but my point was that buses are designed to put two groups who can't access other transport (neither group can make use of the tube easily) into direct conflict with each other. If there were flip-up seats, there wouldn't be this weird conflict between two groups who are both limited in their options.

oopsi · 10/04/2012 16:08

'Do you generally need some kind of medical procedure when you go into someone elses home?'

no..and neither do you when you go to your GPs! A smear is once every few years .Usually it's a bit of a chat a brief examination and then sit down again. What would you do if you had to go into hospital for day srgery? You wouldn't be allowed to take your DC with you , but I'm betting you would manage childcare somehow.

margoandjerry · 10/04/2012 16:11

yes I managed day surgery. It cost me over £100 in babysitting. What's your point?

zzzzz · 10/04/2012 16:12

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SardineQueen · 10/04/2012 16:12

So people are saying there is no reason for any mothers not to be able to go to their GP?

Because they can go and see their friends and it's just the same.

Right.

(Assuming these women are actually going to see their friends but hey-ho what's another assumption going to hurt).

OTTMummA · 10/04/2012 16:14

You shouldn't need to have to arrange childcare for a routine appt at the doctors.
It should be possible for a parent to take a child/ren into a surgery and it not make life difficult.
If you need surgery or medical procedure at a hospital and require rest period or overnight stay etc then it is more reasonable to ask for help from someone, which most people would understand.

There are still people who can not manage this because they have no family support.

I wouldn't expect or want my dh to provide childcare so i could go to a routine appt, however if this ban came into place across the whole uk, and no exceptions were made, then i wouldn't have a choice.

SardineQueen · 10/04/2012 16:15

The question is

Should doctors surgeries be accessible to people who have small children.

The answer is, no.

If a person cannot go and see a GP because they have twins and mobility issues and no childcare options then tough. They should find a way around it. Possibly by putting their wallet in their nappy bag.

nailak · 10/04/2012 16:17

how do you know what others generally need when they go to gp? and isnt exam a sort of medical procedure?

Anyway the point is serivces should be made to be easily accessible for service users.

zzzzz · 10/04/2012 16:18

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nailak · 10/04/2012 16:19

2shoeskickedtheeasterbunny Tue 10-Apr-12 16:02:37
"I am in NO WAY suggesting that wheelchair users should have to get out of them to access health care. I am just saying that the same way that IT IS possible to take 3 kids under 5 post caesarean in to a gps surgery, it is also POSSIBLE for a wheel chair user to be carried in."

I hope i read this as meaning that neither could be done.
I hope I read that right.........

you read right

Whatmeworry · 10/04/2012 16:20

Anyway the point is serivces should be made to be easily accessible for service users.

Drive in doctors. Definitely.

Sweetpea5 · 10/04/2012 16:23

Yes oopsi, if I had to have surgery my husband would have to take a day off work.

halcyondays · 10/04/2012 16:33

If you are having day surgery or a lengthy hospital appointment then you would expect to have to make childcare arrangements. If you are going to a short appointment at your gps then you may well want to avoid having to ask your dp or perhaps another relative to take time off work, if possible. Not everyone has retired, willing and able relatives living close by who can help out at a moment's notice and if you don't, then you may need your dp to save his leave where possible in case there is a real need to use it, like you being ill or having to go into hospital.

bigjoeent · 10/04/2012 16:51

Sardinequeen I have twins and a 5 yo, I use a rucksack and travel as lightly as possible. I have been able to manage all their jabs, routine checks, appointments for me (5 bouts of tonsilitus since the twins were born) and an ongoing medical problem with the 5 yo because the surgery let me take the buggy in with the twins. It is not physically possible or safe for me to take them any other way (negotiating a main road / doors etc). Have you tried to comfort a baby after having a jab whilst holding another one? Or listen to a dr about a problem with your child, ask the relevant questions and understand what you need to do to get your child well? Doing this whilst having to try to restrain 2 toddlers ?
I don't block the doors or make it difficult for other users and entertain the children with books and toys whilst there.

But you think its tough, I and my children shouldn't be able to access care? Glad I don't live on your planet.

OTTMummA · 10/04/2012 16:55

Umm, bigjoeent, have you read all of Sardine's posts?
The post you responded to was her summarising other peoples pov on this subject.

SardineQueen · 10/04/2012 16:55

Have you read the thread?

nailak · 10/04/2012 16:57

drive in doctors? defo not accessible

bigjoeent · 10/04/2012 16:57

Blush oops sorry, I have read the thread, just been on and off so lost track. Please accept my sincere apologies.

SardineQueen · 10/04/2012 17:19

Grin no worries

yakbutter · 10/04/2012 18:33

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oopsi · 10/04/2012 19:08

bigjoeent-but people are not saying they can't use the buggy, just that they have to leave it in the park.You could have pushed your DC across the rioad and then unstrapped them.
You don't have to hold your dc whilst they have their injections-a member of staff can do this. And why is your child magically silent in the pushchair so youi can hear the doctor, but not sitting on the floor or on your knee.
i am sorry but I refuse to accept that women are so bad at m,anaging their own children.

DartsAgain · 10/04/2012 19:20

  1. My surgery covers the whole town (yes, you read that right, it's the only surgery in a reasonably large town), so no chance of voting with my feet if they brought this ban in. I'd have to go miles out of town, with even more inconvenience.

  2. My surgery also shuts at 6pm, no late appointments.

  3. It is extremely difficult to get a home visit, you've literally got to be at death's door to get one. I've tried before for my mum (only when I thought it was really serious) and had to call 999 instead. She ended up in hospital.

So it's not always so nice and easy. Luckily our surgery allows people to take a buggy in, which is a good thing, as once out of sight it would not be there when you got back!Grin

DartsAgain · 10/04/2012 19:21

Oh, and another thing. Our surgery made it clear that chaperones would NOT be allowed to hold children for you, they are chaperones only. Seems this was in response to some people asking for babies to be held.

EasilyBored · 10/04/2012 19:30

My surgery is in a converted victorian terrace, so not the most pushchair friendly of places, but everyone still manages to squeeze themselves and their buggies in on baby clinic days. It's a bit jam packed, but being in a busy waiting room for 10 minutes, squished up next to a pram is hardly going to kill anyone. Saying that, I think I must just be luckyWink and have a child freindly surgery because when the GP gave me a surprise smear, and I tried to say make excuses to avoid it that obviously now wasn't a good time as I had six week old DS with me etc etc, she whisked him off to go and have cuddles with the receptionists while she was doing it.

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