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To expect severely disabled children aged over 10 not to be looked after in a creche?

64 replies

FrankieDee · 22/03/2012 18:06

Namechanged because I could be easily identified.
AIBU to expect that these children who are all over the age of 10 to be looked after in a facility that is completely geared up for preschool children?
They are only using this room for about 40 mins out of a two hour session. None of the equipment is geared for any child over the age of five.
AIBU to think that this is not the most appropriate setting for these children?

OP posts:
saintlyjimjams · 22/03/2012 19:34

hellhas that's terrible. Bloody inclusion.
I suspect that was just an excuse though, they probably shut you because you are more expensive.

Tiny chairs would piss me off.

Ds1 (12) would like a nursery setting for 20 minutes (teletubby toys) but would be bored after that.

ragged · 22/03/2012 19:50

When I don't want to leave them at home so long, I sometimes drag my NT 10yo & 12yo along to toddler groups; they quite enjoy it. Duplo, farm animals, tractors, dressing up stuff, play dough, bit of painting & sticking, they're away.

If the room isn't kitted out to meet their physical needs I understand OP's objection, but as a simple childcare space/the selection of toys on offer/general tone of environment sounds ok to me, for brief spells anyway. Maybe it depends how long the kids need to be in there for.

fanjoforthemammaries7850 · 22/03/2012 20:08

My DD is only 5 but loves things for babies and toddler area of soft play is her favourite , although she gets chucked out, at 10 I could see her being happy in a preschool room tbh, and she's at a school for children with SLDs. A tiny chair wouldn't be ideal though.

peggyblackett · 22/03/2012 20:14

OP - that is shit.I would be really unhappy about it (I have a dd with PMLD).
Do complain.

fanjoforthemammaries7850 · 22/03/2012 20:16

I admit my feelings may well be different when Dd IS 10 though

mynewpassion · 22/03/2012 20:22

In the short-term, while not ideal, it works for the moment but the problem is in the long-term. Are they looking at finding a bigger and more appropriate setting?

EduStudent · 22/03/2012 20:33

Sorry if I've missed this, but why are they there? Is it a club/group at the sports centre? Are they there for them (i.e., to have fun, enjoy themselves, take part in activities) or as childcare whilst parents take part in some activity?

But YANBU to have concerns. I stopped helping at a particular group for children and teenagers with SEN because a cit was getting increasingly patronising and unpleasant. Things like they stopped planning craft activities and just put paper and felt tips out because 'well, they're as happy with that with anything' Angry

Mrsjay · 22/03/2012 20:34

Im not sure what you mean is your child disabled and you dont like the club/building they are using the facilities are not set up for 10 year olds ?

hellhasnofurylikeahungrywoman · 22/03/2012 20:37

When I don't want to leave them at home so long, I sometimes drag my NT 10yo & 12yo along to toddler groups; they quite enjoy it. Duplo, farm animals, tractors, dressing up stuff, play dough, bit of painting & sticking, they're away

Which is absolutely fine if your children can access these things. The children I care for at play-scheme can't.

FrankieDee · 22/03/2012 21:28

Sorry I dissapeared, evening has been busy :)
I have asked mnhq to amend my op and apologies again it was really poorly worded and confusing
The club is 'youth group' for respite really.
They have no immediate plans to change the setup, there have been lots of issues regarding the move and this one has been the one that has pissed me off the most. I would'nt expect this for my nt child.
Inclusion is a dirty word in this house :) tbh it just ensures that in ds's case he is ultimately excluded.
Thanks everyone

OP posts:
2shoes · 22/03/2012 21:29

i know what you mean, I hate the word inclusion, for kids like mine it means her being excluded and sad

EduStudent · 22/03/2012 22:09

Yep. The club I used to help at was called 'The Inclusion Club'.

They got all the children with SEN who used to attend the existing youth group and moved them to this one. Then shut the doors to everybody else. When any child with SEN attempts to come to the original group, they're told to come to the Inclusion Club.

'Cos that's inclusion, innit Hmm

saintlyjimjams · 22/03/2012 22:58

that's crap Frankie - the SLD youth groups I know spend lots of time doing things like baking, life skills, shopping, appropriate craft type activities, sensory play, swimming, as well as chilling out on computers etc.

I would not be remotely happy with ds1 being dumped in a bloody creche.

Ds1 goes to respite and does similar activities to above, but usually goes out quite a bit as well.

ragged · 23/03/2012 20:32

Ah, Hell-fury, that part wasn't clear, that folk were saying that the preschool toys would be too complex. Confusing thread!

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