To expect severely disabled children aged over 10 not to be looked after in a creche?

[FrankieDee]

Namechanged because I could be easily identified.
AIBU to expect that these children who are all over the age of 10 to be looked after in a facility that is completely geared up for preschool children?
They are only using this room for about 40 mins out of a two hour session. None of the equipment is geared for any child over the age of five.
AIBU to think that this is not the most appropriate setting for these children?

Yes hellhas am fucking this up big time, what hellhas said

If it's an inclusive setting are hoists etc available? Are the staff experienced in meeting the children's needs?

oh I think I get it now.
your son is one of these young people, and you are not happy with him using a creche that is aimed at much younger children??

I don't think kids with SLD's or PMLD's to be lumped in with under fives. Although I wouldn't object necessarily to a nursery room being used without under fives present (would depend on the kids).

So, if they are the only children there, is your concern that the pre school age setting is patronising?

Ahh thanks to those who have explained

I would not be happy, I don't think, in the same situation.

dd1 has severe ASD, and I would not want her at 10+ to just be bunged in the creche (even if only her age group using it) area instead of an age appropriate area which is equally safe.

2shoes I would'nt expect any other child of this age to be in a pre school setting so whyis it ok for our kids

was I right then?

Oh christ I am sooo sorry

Are their needs being met? Do they have equipment of their own that is brought into the crèche room?

yes 2shoes you were right.

well my dd is severely disabled (not SLD or PLMD) and she would be beyond bored in that setting(unless there were small children there and she finds them very entertaining) so get your point.
why do they go there?

now its becoming clear!

YANBU if their needs aren't being met, OP.

Needs are met as in they have good experienced staff. No equipment, mobile children are sat on tiny chairs, wheelchair users in their chairs.

Have you complained? I wouldn't be happy.

I wouldn't think that meets their needs,

I wouldn't mind if a group dd1 went ot took place in such a setting - ie, the group did whatever it was set up to do, just surrounded by primary colours and duplo blocks etc.

I would mind if it was a fill-in time, and the children were supposed to find being in the room entertaining. dd1 would be bored after a short while, if not doing something particularly geared to her.

tiny chairs etc is a bit off (although understandable, given the setting) and dd1 would find them funny for a bit, but would surely increase the chances of overbalancing etc so a safety issue potentially.

They go there because they have relocated and not fecking planned the move with the children in mind.
So yes I am hugely pissed off that almost as an afterthought they have been shoved in the littlies room.
Want to know if it is me overeacting really?

I think this is going to become a growing problem with the move towards inclusion. The summer play-scheme I have been involved with for the last few years will not run this summer because we couldn't secure funding unless we provided for mainstream children as well. It's a lovely idea in theory but not in practise. Our guys needed a whole different programme from the mainstream counterparts, it used to take us three hours to take eight children and young people horse riding, going to our local sensory woods would take up the whole morning, our staffing ratio was 1:1 because the medical needs in our group were so high. Even a game of ten pin bowling could take up all afternoon.

no your not over reacting, sounds like a badly thought out idea.
is it during school or after?

If they don't have equipment that means they can be seated comfortably or hoist for when necesary it is obviously not meeting their needs.

I would complain.

No. You're not over reacting at all. It's about the children and young people's dignity and meeting their needs, it sounds to me like needs are not being met and it is not age appropriate really is it?

How long are the children there? Wheelchair users should have a change of position every two hours. How are the personal care needs being met?

I think it depends what they're doing with them - if what they were doing was suited to the age and stage they're at, I can't really see that I'd care what the usual purpose of the room is.