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Where is the fucking justice for Trayvon Martin? a 17 year old INNOCENT CHILD shot to death simply because he was walking in his father's gated community.

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chewchewmeaw · 17/03/2012 19:10

Why in gods hell has that MURDERER not been arrested?

Are they looking for riots? they will happen if Zimmerman is not brought to justice. I am so sickened by this.

I wouldn't be surprised if you haven't heard this story yet - very slow in reporting it.

He was begging for his life': Family's anger as police finally play 911 calls made by neighborhood watch captain who shot black teen

Trayvon Martin,17, was shot dead by George Zimmerman, 28, last month, who claims the killing was self defense and has not been charged
Police finally gave into mounting pressure on Friday and released eight 911 calls
The teen's family say the calls show Zimmerman was the 'aggressor' not Trayvon

The police have finally released the 911 calls made in relation to the killing of an unarmed black teenager who was shot by a white neighborhood watch captain.

George Zimmerman, 28, had called 911 to report a suspicious man and can be heard pursuing Trayvon Martin, 17, on foot against the dispatcher's advice causing the teen to run away.
Moments later the police are bombarded with calls from terrified neighbors as a voice in the background can be heard desperately screaming for help before the sound of two gun shots.
When police arrived at Florida's Retreat at Twin Lakes Townhomes they found Trayvon, who had been returning from a store with candy for his younger brother, had been shot dead by Zimmerman.
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Trayvon Martin, 17, left, was killed by George Zimmerman, 28, right, after the neighborhood watch captain pursued him as walked in a gated community

Zimmerman had called 911 after spotting the teen walking through the gated community.
'This guy looks like he is up to no good. He is on drugs or something,' Zimmerman told the dispatcher from his SUV.
He added that the black teen had his hand in his waistband and was walking around looking at homes.

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'These a---. They always get away,' Zimmerman said on a 911 call.
During Zimmerman's initial call, he told the dispatcher he was following Martin and the dispatcher told him, 'You don't need to do that.'
But Zimmerman sounds as if he continues to pursue the teen saying: 'He ran.'
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In Zimmerman's 911 call he said Martin, pictured, looked like he 'up to no good' and on drugs as the teen returned home with skittles for his brother
He then refuses to meet police officers at an agreed location and asks for them to call him on arrival instead so he can tell them where he is.
Sanford police officials, who have not charged Zimmerman after accepting his claim that his actions were in self defense, finally released eight 911 calls on Friday after mounting pressure.
Martin's family had demanded the release of the calls to help better understand how Martin died while walking home from a convenience store last month.
'He was yelling for help, and no one could help him. He saw his life being taken away from him,' the teen's father Tracy Martin said.
He said they will continue pushing for charges to be filed against Zimmerman.
'We?re hoping this doesn?t happen again to another family, and that America opens their eyes ... even though this won?t bring Trayvon back,
we don?t want there to be another Trayvon,' Mr Martin said.
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The teenager's parents; mother Sabrina Fulton, right, and father Tracy Martin, left, are said to be devastated after hearing the 911 calls of their son's last moments

Benjamin Crump, the attorney for Martin's family, said that the 911 calls show that the teenager spent the last few moments of his life terrified and Zimmerman should be charged
After listening to recordings of 911 calls, Martin's family said they're more convinced than ever that the Zimmerman should be charged with a crime.
'You hear a shot, a clear shot, then you hear a 17-year-old boy begging for his life,' said Natalie Jackson, the family attorney. 'Then you hear a second shot.'
The case has been turned over to the State Attorney's Office which can decide whether to file charges or present evidence to a grand jury.
Attorney Benjamin Crump, who is also representing the family, told reporters outside Sanford City Hall that Martin's parents both broke down and cried as they listened to the recordings.
'They are completely devastated, and they are in unbelievable grief,' Crump said. 'The last seconds of his life were in absolute fear.'
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Martin was visiting his father and stepmother in Sanford where they live at The Retreat at Twin Lakes, pictured, when he popped out to buy snacks for his younger brother
He added that a third witness has come forward saying it was the boy who was crying for help.
Martin's parents, Tracy Martin and Sybrina Fulton, previously sued to have the recordings released. A hearing for the case had been scheduled for Monday.
Moments after Zimmerman's initial call, dispatchers were bombarded by seven 911 calls from frantic neighbors describing a fight between two men, screaming and then a gunshot.
'There is somebody screaming outside,' one female caller said, as an unknown male voice can be heard crying in the background. Then a shot is heard.
A male caller described a physical altercation between Martin and the shooter.
'I just heard a shot right behind my house,' The caller said. 'They're wrestling right behind my porch. The guy is yelling 'Help.' I'm not going outside.'

By the time police officers arrived, unarmed Trayvon, who had been carrying Skittles and soda, was dead on the ground from a single gunshot
Another woman said a man in a 'white top' was on top Trayvon.
Earlier on Friday, Martin's parents called on the FBI to take over the investigation, saying they no longer trusted the Sanford police department.
Sanford police Sgt. David Morgenstern said the department stands by its investigation but welcomes help from any outside agency. FBI agent David Couvertier said the agency has been in contact with Sanford police and is monitoring the case.
'We are committed to having somebody review this to see if we made a mistake,' said Sanford Mayor Jeff Triplett. 'If we made missteps and there is something there, we will act accordingly'

Trayvon's family believe Zimmerman should be charged and brought to justice for shooting their young son
Several Sanford residents who spoke to The Associated Press said they think there would have been an arrest already if the shooter had been black and the deceased had been white.
They said blacks and whites in this city of 53,000 residents were pretty much in agreement that an injustice had been done with no one arrested, and that there was no racial divide in how the case is being perceived. The city is 57 percent white and 30 percent black.
Zimmerman's father delivered a letter to the Orlando Sentinel on Thursday, saying the way his son is being depicted in the media is cruel and misleading.
He also says his son has received death threats and moved out of his home. George Zimmerman is Hispanic and grew up in a multiracial family, the statement says.

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Ashoething · 14/07/2013 11:50

Wow a cheeky tart? what an awesome insult-how long did it take you to come up with that one?Hmm

How did the black people get to America Creighton?-again educate yourself re slavery.

I am not denying that there isn't inherent racism in the usa btw-you only have to look at the prison system to see there is. I am not convinced though that this case is racist-people are being manipulated by the media.

GoshAnneGorilla · 14/07/2013 11:51

Power + Prejudice = Racism.

So those complaining about black people on here being racism are showing their ignorance and making someone's death all about their own hurt feelings.

Also Trayvon did not have a criminal record en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Trayvon_Martin

I question the motives of those insisting otherwise.

CheerfulYank · 14/07/2013 11:51

I am white and American and care deeply about the travails that ALL people suffer. I don't want anyone to be "noble" or "humble" and I am perfectly fine with anyone being as fucking angry as they feel, not that they need my permission. What I am not fine with is someone assuming I am a certain way because of my skin color.

ANormalOne · 14/07/2013 11:52

Yeah, Gosh I didn't think he had one, Zimmerman on the other does have a history of violence and abuse, funny that.

creighton · 14/07/2013 11:52

ashoething, I couldn't possibly know how black people got to America, do tell me...educate me... I clearly am in so much need of guidance from a person like you....

Ashoething · 14/07/2013 11:53

Assuming someone is a certain way due to skin colour?-is that not racism? Assuming I am oppressing black people because I happen to be white-is that not racism?

BabyMakesMyEyesGoSleepy · 14/07/2013 11:53

Well as long as people sling 'whites' and 'blacks' about,all inclusive they lose any credibility as they show their racism. Its like saying travellers or gipsies or immigrants.

ANormalOne · 14/07/2013 11:54

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Ashoething · 14/07/2013 11:54

You clearly don't know Creighton-your ill informed posts make it abundantly clear that you don't. You feel the need to resort to personal insults as you cannot make your point other wise. It makes meSad

ANormalOne · 14/07/2013 11:55

*black people not blacks.

Ashoething · 14/07/2013 11:57

I never commented that trayvon had previous convictions btw. I merely asked for clarification as it had been mentioned on the thread.

I shall say again I have no truck with zimmermans actions-I think he made a very poor decision and deserves some kind of punishments. But I don't believe on the evidence presented that he could have been found guilty of murder.

ANormalOne · 14/07/2013 11:59

I don't think he should be found guilty of murder, it should be manslaughter, he didn't go out and intend to kill him, he created a situation were it became inevitable that he would though.

moreyear · 14/07/2013 12:01

The stand your ground defence was NOT used in this case.
www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/aug/13/zimmerman-stand-your-ground-trayvon-martin

The defence argued self defence and the prosecution failed to establish beyond reasonable that George Zimmerman was not in fear for his life when he shot Trayvon Martin.

Ashoething · 14/07/2013 12:02

Vivi's post has been deleted btw. I think this thread is becoming too much of a bunfight and shall step away.

TidyDancer · 14/07/2013 12:03

Manslaughter would've been more appropriate. Goes to the incompetency of the prosecutor maybe that this didn't happen.

emuloc · 14/07/2013 12:03

Then is that not nurder either way then.

creighton · 14/07/2013 12:03

so, what have we learned from this thread?

trayvon martin deserved to be killed because he had fancy ghetto dental work

he was wearing a hoodie

he was black and so must have had a criminal record

he shouldn't have responded to the white man who confronted him

people should moderate their tone when talking to white people on this thread so as not to upset them

the black people on this thread are racists but the white people are not

i am a nasty bigot because i talk back to white people (oh dear!)

i am in need of 'education' because i do not see things in an approved manner.

black people should not show their anger at the never ending insults thrown their way despite knowing that this case will happen again and again

white people in America are not racist even though they allow racist law and or practise to go on unabated

have i missed anything?

TidyDancer · 14/07/2013 12:04

I reported it and judging by the message I got back from MN towers, I wasn't alone.

TidyDancer · 14/07/2013 12:05

Christ almighty, there really is no getting through to some people is there?

Ashoething · 14/07/2013 12:06

Not up to the prosecutor what the defendant is charged with-that decision is made higher up-district or state attorney probably. The fact that they chose to pursue the murder conviction makes me believe that they knew that this was going to become racially aggravating and wanted to be seen to be doing the correct thing.

Backfired with the verdict though as I believe he would have been convicted of manslaughter.

SpecialAgentTattooedQueen · 14/07/2013 12:08

I'm British and in a mixed marriage.

Entitle Creighton to her opinion, she is in a country that has all but waved their hand and said 'GTFO, he was black.' Of course she's pissed!! I am and you should see DH!! He isn't even angry, he's teary and confused (doesn't follow politics as much as I do) America has YET AGAIN hid their stupid fucking gun laws behind a racist, easier to deal with a jaw dropped public than a public demanding gun reform. Looks better don't it? Not for Trayvon's family of course, but who cares, right? :(

This is emotive to us with minority children. The thought that someone could stalk my child, call the police about him and then kill him when he went fight/flight then argue 'well, he was a gangsta/gold teeth/previous records...' Everything BUT what is out and out being said in those posts which is 'he clearly deserved it.' WTF does it matter if he had gold teeth or if he was a 'gangsta?' (Still want Dora to explain what she means... Nowhere have I seen explanations he was in a gang)

WTAF do gold teeth have to do with the fact someone shot him?

Unless, of course you connotate the two. Hmm

I want to hide my mixed race DC behind closed doors right now. After all, if they panic at some freak following them they deserve to die.

Because that's what America just told my family.

creighton · 14/07/2013 12:08

tidydancer how happy you are to be in a group! the post should not have been deleted. a show of real anger is sometimes what is needed rather than letting white people not see how HURT we are by the casual dismissal of black people and their lives.

SpecialAgentTattooedQueen · 14/07/2013 12:09

so, what have we learned from this thread?

trayvon martin deserved to be killed because he had fancy ghetto dental work

he was wearing a hoodie

he was black and so must have had a criminal record

he shouldn't have responded to the white man who confronted him

people should moderate their tone when talking to white people on this thread so as not to upset them

the black people on this thread are racists but the white people are not

i am a nasty bigot because i talk back to white people (oh dear!)

i am in need of 'education' because i do not see things in an approved manner.

black people should not show their anger at the never ending insults thrown their way despite knowing that this case will happen again and again

white people in America are not racist even though they allow racist law and or practise to go on unabated

have i missed anything?

Applauds Go Creighton! Like you said, some has to protect our kids. Lets home MN will and won't delete our posts!!

ThePowerof3 · 14/07/2013 12:09

I just can't believe he wasn't found guilty! The gun laws need to change, poor boy

Ashoething · 14/07/2013 12:09

Creighton-you really are just choosing not to listen to what posters are saying are you? Noone is denying that there is inherent racism in the usa. What people are trying to point out to you is that saying that ALL white americans are racist is wrong and is in fact in itself racist!

You are being disingenuous if you refuse to see this.

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