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Where is the fucking justice for Trayvon Martin? a 17 year old INNOCENT CHILD shot to death simply because he was walking in his father's gated community.

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chewchewmeaw · 17/03/2012 19:10

Why in gods hell has that MURDERER not been arrested?

Are they looking for riots? they will happen if Zimmerman is not brought to justice. I am so sickened by this.

I wouldn't be surprised if you haven't heard this story yet - very slow in reporting it.

He was begging for his life': Family's anger as police finally play 911 calls made by neighborhood watch captain who shot black teen

Trayvon Martin,17, was shot dead by George Zimmerman, 28, last month, who claims the killing was self defense and has not been charged
Police finally gave into mounting pressure on Friday and released eight 911 calls
The teen's family say the calls show Zimmerman was the 'aggressor' not Trayvon

The police have finally released the 911 calls made in relation to the killing of an unarmed black teenager who was shot by a white neighborhood watch captain.

George Zimmerman, 28, had called 911 to report a suspicious man and can be heard pursuing Trayvon Martin, 17, on foot against the dispatcher's advice causing the teen to run away.
Moments later the police are bombarded with calls from terrified neighbors as a voice in the background can be heard desperately screaming for help before the sound of two gun shots.
When police arrived at Florida's Retreat at Twin Lakes Townhomes they found Trayvon, who had been returning from a store with candy for his younger brother, had been shot dead by Zimmerman.
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Trayvon Martin, 17, left, was killed by George Zimmerman, 28, right, after the neighborhood watch captain pursued him as walked in a gated community

Zimmerman had called 911 after spotting the teen walking through the gated community.
'This guy looks like he is up to no good. He is on drugs or something,' Zimmerman told the dispatcher from his SUV.
He added that the black teen had his hand in his waistband and was walking around looking at homes.

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'These a---. They always get away,' Zimmerman said on a 911 call.
During Zimmerman's initial call, he told the dispatcher he was following Martin and the dispatcher told him, 'You don't need to do that.'
But Zimmerman sounds as if he continues to pursue the teen saying: 'He ran.'
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In Zimmerman's 911 call he said Martin, pictured, looked like he 'up to no good' and on drugs as the teen returned home with skittles for his brother
He then refuses to meet police officers at an agreed location and asks for them to call him on arrival instead so he can tell them where he is.
Sanford police officials, who have not charged Zimmerman after accepting his claim that his actions were in self defense, finally released eight 911 calls on Friday after mounting pressure.
Martin's family had demanded the release of the calls to help better understand how Martin died while walking home from a convenience store last month.
'He was yelling for help, and no one could help him. He saw his life being taken away from him,' the teen's father Tracy Martin said.
He said they will continue pushing for charges to be filed against Zimmerman.
'We?re hoping this doesn?t happen again to another family, and that America opens their eyes ... even though this won?t bring Trayvon back,
we don?t want there to be another Trayvon,' Mr Martin said.
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The teenager's parents; mother Sabrina Fulton, right, and father Tracy Martin, left, are said to be devastated after hearing the 911 calls of their son's last moments

Benjamin Crump, the attorney for Martin's family, said that the 911 calls show that the teenager spent the last few moments of his life terrified and Zimmerman should be charged
After listening to recordings of 911 calls, Martin's family said they're more convinced than ever that the Zimmerman should be charged with a crime.
'You hear a shot, a clear shot, then you hear a 17-year-old boy begging for his life,' said Natalie Jackson, the family attorney. 'Then you hear a second shot.'
The case has been turned over to the State Attorney's Office which can decide whether to file charges or present evidence to a grand jury.
Attorney Benjamin Crump, who is also representing the family, told reporters outside Sanford City Hall that Martin's parents both broke down and cried as they listened to the recordings.
'They are completely devastated, and they are in unbelievable grief,' Crump said. 'The last seconds of his life were in absolute fear.'
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Martin was visiting his father and stepmother in Sanford where they live at The Retreat at Twin Lakes, pictured, when he popped out to buy snacks for his younger brother
He added that a third witness has come forward saying it was the boy who was crying for help.
Martin's parents, Tracy Martin and Sybrina Fulton, previously sued to have the recordings released. A hearing for the case had been scheduled for Monday.
Moments after Zimmerman's initial call, dispatchers were bombarded by seven 911 calls from frantic neighbors describing a fight between two men, screaming and then a gunshot.
'There is somebody screaming outside,' one female caller said, as an unknown male voice can be heard crying in the background. Then a shot is heard.
A male caller described a physical altercation between Martin and the shooter.
'I just heard a shot right behind my house,' The caller said. 'They're wrestling right behind my porch. The guy is yelling 'Help.' I'm not going outside.'

By the time police officers arrived, unarmed Trayvon, who had been carrying Skittles and soda, was dead on the ground from a single gunshot
Another woman said a man in a 'white top' was on top Trayvon.
Earlier on Friday, Martin's parents called on the FBI to take over the investigation, saying they no longer trusted the Sanford police department.
Sanford police Sgt. David Morgenstern said the department stands by its investigation but welcomes help from any outside agency. FBI agent David Couvertier said the agency has been in contact with Sanford police and is monitoring the case.
'We are committed to having somebody review this to see if we made a mistake,' said Sanford Mayor Jeff Triplett. 'If we made missteps and there is something there, we will act accordingly'

Trayvon's family believe Zimmerman should be charged and brought to justice for shooting their young son
Several Sanford residents who spoke to The Associated Press said they think there would have been an arrest already if the shooter had been black and the deceased had been white.
They said blacks and whites in this city of 53,000 residents were pretty much in agreement that an injustice had been done with no one arrested, and that there was no racial divide in how the case is being perceived. The city is 57 percent white and 30 percent black.
Zimmerman's father delivered a letter to the Orlando Sentinel on Thursday, saying the way his son is being depicted in the media is cruel and misleading.
He also says his son has received death threats and moved out of his home. George Zimmerman is Hispanic and grew up in a multiracial family, the statement says.

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Ashoething · 14/07/2013 11:23

If he had previous convictions and when was then seen in the neighbourhood-if you lived there would you not have been a bit suspicious/concerned?

I just don't see how its right that posters on here are trying to paint Zimmerman as the devil and trayvon as the angel-its really not as simple as that.

PeachActiviaMinge · 14/07/2013 11:23

Creighton "It is better to keep your mouth shut and appear an idiot than to open it and remove all reasonable doubt"

TidyDancer · 14/07/2013 11:23

Creighton, please stop with the bigoted posts they are deeply unpleasant and hugely unnecessary.

Alisvolatpropiis · 14/07/2013 11:24

Tidy I don't think creighton is being racist. She raises a valid point about race relations in America from a black persons point of view. You telling her it's racist and she should basically shut up is not fair.

Vivizones post was over the top yes, but I can understand why she is so angry and why she said what she did.

chibi · 14/07/2013 11:25

do you know who in your neighbourhood has previous convictions, ashoething? maybe you should arm yourself, stalk them and just shoot to kill, just in case, eh?

especially if they are a unarmed child.

ffs

Ashoething · 14/07/2013 11:25

I do not think Zimmerman is entirely innocent-as I said I think he made a very bad judgement call and I think he should have been convicted of manslaughter.

Re-the gun laws. The vast majority of people in the usa do not want them changed.

TidyDancer · 14/07/2013 11:25

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TidyDancer · 14/07/2013 11:25

I'm I

ANormalOne · 14/07/2013 11:25

Why is Trayvon's criminal history of burglary relevant but Zimmerman's criminal history of domestic violence, resisting arrest and battery of a law enforcement officer not considered to be relevant? Hmm

Only one person could have stopped Trayvon from being killed and that was the self-appointed, gun-totting, wannabe cop who was told to leave him alone.

Meanwhile a black woman who fired a warning shot to scare away an abusive husband just got sentenced to TWENTY YEARS in jail, this is all about race.

Ashoething · 14/07/2013 11:26

Chibi-please have your ffs back thanks. Cheers.

creighton · 14/07/2013 11:28

my posts are not racist, they are pointing out what the situation is right now in America. white people have and still collude with the idea that it is okay to oppress black people. show me where that is not true.

why should people, whose lives are deemed to be forfeit by whites, express their anger politely? should they do this for fear of retribution from white people, or is being suitably humble the only way to get sympathy from white people?

Ashoething · 14/07/2013 11:31

Is there no racism against the Hispanic community in America then Creighton?

chibi · 14/07/2013 11:31

did three little letters offend you? please allow me to amend:

for fuck's sake

there! all better

TidyDancer · 14/07/2013 11:32

If you really feel you are not being racist, creighton, that makes me sad.

I had no idea how prevalent and defendable casual racism was. This thread is teaching me a lot and I'm not happy to say that.

CheerfulYank · 14/07/2013 11:32

is any white American innocent? don't they all collude with a situation where black people are oppressed in that country.

As a white American...are you serious, Creighton? I have never colluded to oppress anyone in my life.

BabyMakesMyEyesGoSleepy · 14/07/2013 11:32

Creighton you say your posts are not racist and follow on to use the phrases White People and Black People universally.

Ashoething · 14/07/2013 11:33

chibi-you are really not doing yourself any favours on this thread. Perhaps step away until you are able to reason or debate in an adult manner?. Hun.

creighton · 14/07/2013 11:33

I am being told to be humble in front of white people so that I don't offend their sensibilities.

SpecialAgentTattooedQueen · 14/07/2013 11:34

ANormalOne Sun 14-Jul-13 11:25:56
Why is Trayvon's criminal history of burglary relevant but Zimmerman's criminal history of domestic violence, resisting arrest and battery of a law enforcement officer not considered to be relevant? hmm

Only one person could have stopped Trayvon from being killed and that was the self-appointed, gun-totting, wannabe cop who was told to leave him alone.

Meanwhile a black woman who fired a warning shot to scare away an abusive husband just got sentenced to TWENTY YEARS in jail, this is all about race.

^^

This, this, THIS!! He prick played bad cop and fucking got away with it.

I don't blame Vivi for wanting his head. Thank goodness I don't let DH post, you'd all need smelling salts if her post, which is clearly posted in extreme anger and a feeling of violation of trust is racist, evil, bigoted, offensive whatever... You don't want to hear how this is affecting the black community. Thank GOD my DC are only all but babes Angry

littlemisswise · 14/07/2013 11:34

I was just going to post that link Anormalone. How did she get 20 years for firing warning shots and he get off Scott free? I agree with you, it is about race.

TidyDancer · 14/07/2013 11:36

No creighton, you are not. You are being asked not to be racist and you are not understanding how you are being so. That in no way equals you being asked to be humble in front of white people. In the nicest possible way, you may want to take a look at your own attitude here.

BabyMakesMyEyesGoSleepy · 14/07/2013 11:36

No you're not Creighton. Hmm

Ashoething · 14/07/2013 11:37

I don't have a problem with vivi being angry at the verdict or indeed being angry at the person she believes to be guilty of a crime-Zimmerman. I take great issue with her wishing ill on people who were merely doing their job-the lawyers,court officials etc and also zimmermans family.

She has lowered herself and her argument by posting such vile comments.

TidyDancer · 14/07/2013 11:37

I would also ask, creighton, how you are no psychically aware that the people you are being offensive to are all white?

Just FYI, I can confirm that your psychic powers are lacking.

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