to say something about a child being tied up at nursery?

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DS goes to nursery p/t while I'm at work. He's been talking recently about 'not needing a strap' so I asked the nursery staff whether they used wrist straps when they took the children to the local shops, park etc. The nursery nurse I asked said, "Oh no, he's talking about child x. When we have story time child x runs round and round in circles so we put a wrist strap on him to make him stay still." I was a bit but as child x's mum is a member of staff I didn't comment. But... it's been playing on my mind and I'm wondering whether I should take it further. I wouldn't want my child to be restrained in this way unless it was a safety issue and I don't think it's acceptable for any child to be effectively 'tied up' because they act like a normal toddler.

WIBU to say that I'm not comfortable with what they told me and could I have a fuller explanation of why they think this is acceptable?

OP am I right in thinking you know about this only from your DS?

Is it possible this other child has special needs of some kind?

I mean, I wonder if it might have been explained to them like that: 'Sam is special and needs his strap. You don't need a strap, Jack!'

Jack at home that night: 'I don't need a strap!'

Doesn't mean it's inappropriate.

But YANBU to ask for their policy on restraint.

xpost sorry

birds - sorry, you are right usual is a more appropriate word

It is far from ok, whether the mother agrees or not.
It is abusive treatment
Ofsted would be very interested to hear of this,please report them to ofsted ASAP.

Dude ffs, I was thinking this would be some terrible news story about a dire nursery like that story a while back about a kid who was tied up by bullies at school until a dinner lady rescued her, but you're talking about a toddler on a wrist strap/harness. I think a grip needs to be got. FWIW I put my older daughter on a harness most of the time when we were out because I would rather have a child 'tied up' than dead under a bus. By all means report me to the court of human rights, since you seem to think this is a terrible occurrance.

as a nursery manager i think it very bad practice, the staff should be competent enough to deal with a child without a wrist strap, outdoors yes but indoors? you can bet your life they wouldn't do it when Ofsted were in.

I think that baby reins or a wrist strap is an excellent idea if you somewhere busy like a road or a large museum or an airport. I think that using a strap to restrain a child at story time is abuse whether the mother consent to the treatment or not.

Physical restraint should only be used as a matter of safety. A child running about at story time is not going to kill anyone or damage property. If the child cannot cope with storytime then the nursery needs to make alternative provison for him. Ie. have an adult to supervise him to take him to a diferent part of the room.

The special needs arguement is bollox in this case. The child is being restrained for the convience of the carers. No one is in any danger.

Dead under a bus vs...what in a nursery.
Exactly as I said - you restraain children when you think they're going to come to harm, or that they might harm others.
Does he get tethered to his high chair if he won't sit still for lunch?
The only acceptable explanation IMO is if it's the SN explanation a couple of people have mentioned - i.e. if they're doing it for him rather than tohim,

"the staff should be competent enough to deal with a child without a wrist strap"
exactly

When my DS was about 18-24 months one of the nursery staff put a harness on him to clip to the chair because he kept standing up on it when they were busy doing nappy change. They told me when I picked him up because he'd have said something to me.

I used to put his reins/harness on him and tie him to the bannister when I put the bins out. That way I could leave the door open without him running after me onto the road or pulling the door shut and crying or catching his fingers.
I didn't leave him there though

Oh FFS, it's a wrist strap. He's hardly tied up, is he?! Talk about over dramatizing your title to put your point across.
I was all on to say YANBU until I read the actual post. I could understand your point if you were complaining he was chained up to the nursery railings while the other childrenall ran about in the sunshine, but no.
It's no different to other parents using wrist straps to stop their children running off.
If the child's mum is aware and okay with it, then what the heck has it got to do with you?!