to feel sorry for the children of these women?

[featherbag]

Before I start, I know I'm going to get flamed for having my judgypants hoiked up so high they're in danger of choking me, but I just can't help it!

I got on the bus with baby DS - a couple of mahogany women were sitting in the seats in the buggy area, and as the other one was full I had to stand. That's fine, although the rest of the bus was empty and they had no buggy, I know I have no god-given right to sit there, but I wanted to explain how I came to overhear their conversation.

They were on their way to collect their children from the primary school near my house. They were trying out their excuses to the teachers for being late on each other, trying to come up with something believable and not the truth, which was that they'd been 'on the lash' since 10am, and were now shit-faced. They'd gotten the money for this escapade by flogging an iPhone 4S that one of them had stolen the night before. She'd only gotten £140 for it as the local CEX wouldn't take it without ID and she didn't want a criminal record when it was revealed as stolen. The other one said she wished she'd known as she already had a 'long as fuck' record and didn't care about adding to it. She'd sold 2 stolen blackberries last week, which paid for her weekend.

The school called one of them while they were still on the bus - she calmly told them that she'd been to the hospital and had waited ages past her appointment time, and not to ring Kai's mum as she was with her, having accompanied her for moral support. They then decided they'd have to stop at a shop on the way to the school for mints as 'that stupid bitch doesn't let you take the kids if you're pissed'. Kai and his classmate are being dumped on unsuspecting grandparents tonight who will be told mummy is poorly - well, now that they've got a drink in them they're in the mood for getting 'properly hammered', aren't they, and SS get the arse if they find out you've left the kids in on their own?!

The worst thing about these people is they have more children than decent people. Soon there will be more of them than there is of us. We need parental licenses. Or massive changes to how the welfare state is run.

I'm shocked some people are surprised by this!

I live in an ok area - well at least i thought so...i popped into our little high street supermarket a couple of weeks ago and overheard a couple having a very loud arguement - actually he was mainly calling her a bitch and screaming at her.

It ended with the man hitting his girlfriend in the face - snatching the keys from her (which is what they were arguing about) and walking out.

The staff did try to intervene but just got told to fuck off by both of them!

As someone said earlier some people don't care what others think.

We lived next door to people like this . They lived their lives with absolutely no structure or morals I had never seen anything like it. Spent my mat leave like this hard to ignore them when they are directly next door and very very loud. Special moments included:

• sitting in the garden and smoking weed all day, shouting inanities at each other no one working despite being given a flat in central London in boom time My sheets smelled of skunk.
• training and organising dog fights
• said dog leaping fence, shitting in our garden terrorising everyone
• other dog not being looked after properly so it got run over
• screaming swearing matches a lot often about who fathered which baby
• drug dealing
• prostitution
• gangsta rap

I wept with relief when we moved and I met our new neighbours, he a recently retired professor of paediatrics she makes jam. Never heard anything from them except gentle talk about gardening

Unfortunately, I hear a lot of open conversations like this on the bus.

If undercover Police and other welfare agencies could set up office on the back seats - it would save them a lot of petrol money.

Only on page one so far but I AMAZED that so many of you have totally misunderstood what 'mahogany women' are!

Yep, I have also heard similar conversations - although mainly about 'deals' and 'business' from over-baked women wearing fetching ankle electronic tags bracelets. They drive the nicest cars, wear the designer labels and the biggest most hideous jewellery you can imagine. And would you believe it, all done on benefits.....

I'm intrigued by the rest of the conversation you've left out OP!! Do tell!

Sadly people like the women on the bus do exist and even more sad they are allowed to have children who will turn out the same

It's not "naice" but

I've seen/heard a goodly number of "naice middle class" women drunk as skunks looking after their VERY young babies overnight (a bottle or 2 of chardonnay makes you a damn site further gone than tipsy!). A nice accent and cos it's all behind closed doors, it's OK.

No I don't approve of, or mix in the company of thieves. That includes the posh Mums who let their kids eat a bunch of grapes as they go round waitrose but don't pay the full weight amount at the till (1/2 of it's been munched). I dropped a couple of people like a hot brick when DS was a toddler for their "modified shoplifting". I didn't report em to social services for it though.

1/ They weren't spending their food money on the booze
2/ They were aware they weren't in a fit state for childcare so were taking the kids to responsible adults who were fit to look after them for the night. Neither were they intending to leave the kids home alone. They were planning to do the sensible thing.

So why report it to social services? Taking people's kids off em just cos you think they are as rough as a badgers arse is a form of social eugenics.

The women you overheard aren't "naice" but the time spent on every investigation like this, means a social worker is not left with the proper time to properly devote to helping the kids who are getting battered to fook, or who ARE being neglected and left home alone.

Sadly I've heard similar.

I once heard a girl tell a friend that she was 'well chuffed' for landing on her feet with the 'old perv'. Her friend said 'yeah but dontcha feel guilty?' and she said 'nah, he met me on so whats he expect? I was proper grossed out but now it's just the odd bj. He is pushing 70. Won't be long!'

At which point I got off the bus with complete shock on my face.

I don't get why you'd openly admit to it on a crowded bus. At least it didn't seem that any kids were involved.

bahahaha at the people who thought OP was making this up. I probably would have come to the same conclusion in the past, but that was before I moved to (Northside) Dublin. Some of the conversations I hear on the bus..... ah jaysus!!!

Funny one and one of my faves though (not about being a crim) is from a mate's dad who was in a chipper. Two mahogany-shaded teen girls are having a chat about one of them heading off to Lanzarote on hols with her bf.

Girl 1: "Does yer mam know you're going with X"
Girl 2: "Fook no, she'd staple my flaps together if she did!!"

Sadly it is because of the bleeding heart brigade and their disbelief that people like this increase because we should all be nicer to the underclass because they is disadvantaged innet

Before we all shrug this off as a fake, I have had the pleasure of overhearing at least 2 conversations that were very similar to this. People talk so loudly about anything on public transport.

Before we all shrug this off as a fake, I have had the pleasure of overhearing at least 2 conversations that were very similar to this. People talk so loudly about anything on public transport.

Last time i was on the bus there was a woman on the phone, screaming at her other half that he'd just embarresed her on another bus, cos of the way he was fucking speaking and all that shouting and stuff, totally fucking embarrased she was cos he was acting like a total cunt, this went on the whole 15 minutes she was on the bus, when she got off we were all pretty much left thinking that she managed to embarass herself on a bus quite well.

So true I said it twice!

Oh talking of over sharing on public transport...

My brother overheard a guy arguing with his gf on his mobile. He was claiming again and again 'but I do play with your boobs, I do! I always touch them loads!' etc etc

I don't know how he kept a straight face!

Oh people speak like this all the time.

Once when Mum and I were having a manicure, thw woman next to us told someon eon the phone (and everyone else in the place by extension) that she was 'gonna get Paul to say he witnessed the whole thing.' The whole thing being a fight down the pub where she had 'given that cunt a proper slap'.

Zara- I have never before wished for a "like" button on here, but I wish there was one after that!

This thread it disturbing and hilarious all at once!

I love it that people think this was made up and no-one could possibly be so mean or so fake-baked

Do you all live in Shipton-Under-Wychwood or something? In which case I am well jel

Once, on a bus in Manchester, the lady sitting next to me got out her crack pipe, had a quick toke, then sang Pie Jesu very nicely to me.

That was an eye opener.

Ok, but no accusations of lying!

For part of the journey a male friend of the ladies was also on the bus - it was his buggy in the other buggy area, containing a beautiful (and wide awake) little girl of about 2. He was joining in ther conversation over the aisle. He gave them the number for a mate of his who could get hold of expensive phones acquired on contract using fake details and set up with direct debits on real bank accounts - these could then be sold on for more as they would give the buyer free usage until the owner of the bank account noticed and had it stopped.

This 'gentleman' asked the ladies if they were going into town tonight. When they said yes, he informed them at the top of his voice that Tuesday is gay night and they could 'get yer fuckin fannies licked!' The ladies found this hilarious and repeated it several times. The drunker of the 2 then said she hoped she didn't end up in the same state as last week as she'd woken up in a house on the other side of the city an hour after she was supposed to pick 'the kid' up from school and now the school 'had it in for her' and her mam (daft bitch) was refusing to look after 'it' again if she knew her daughter was going drinking.

Mmm i would call the school. They are probably aware but might be able to do more if you tell then what you heard. Im sure they'll know which children you're talking about. Poor kids.

Fucking hell. Those bloody kids have no chance at all.