to feel sorry for the children of these women?

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Before I start, I know I'm going to get flamed for having my judgypants hoiked up so high they're in danger of choking me, but I just can't help it!

I got on the bus with baby DS - a couple of mahogany women were sitting in the seats in the buggy area, and as the other one was full I had to stand. That's fine, although the rest of the bus was empty and they had no buggy, I know I have no god-given right to sit there, but I wanted to explain how I came to overhear their conversation.

They were on their way to collect their children from the primary school near my house. They were trying out their excuses to the teachers for being late on each other, trying to come up with something believable and not the truth, which was that they'd been 'on the lash' since 10am, and were now shit-faced. They'd gotten the money for this escapade by flogging an iPhone 4S that one of them had stolen the night before. She'd only gotten £140 for it as the local CEX wouldn't take it without ID and she didn't want a criminal record when it was revealed as stolen. The other one said she wished she'd known as she already had a 'long as fuck' record and didn't care about adding to it. She'd sold 2 stolen blackberries last week, which paid for her weekend.

The school called one of them while they were still on the bus - she calmly told them that she'd been to the hospital and had waited ages past her appointment time, and not to ring Kai's mum as she was with her, having accompanied her for moral support. They then decided they'd have to stop at a shop on the way to the school for mints as 'that stupid bitch doesn't let you take the kids if you're pissed'. Kai and his classmate are being dumped on unsuspecting grandparents tonight who will be told mummy is poorly - well, now that they've got a drink in them they're in the mood for getting 'properly hammered', aren't they, and SS get the arse if they find out you've left the kids in on their own?!

I (and a whole packed communter train headed to Kent) once listened to a a girl of about 14 describe her recent abortion in great detail. The way she spoke about it was so callous you could almost hear collective intakes of breath across the train - it was shocking. I have no trouble believing the OP or feeling sorry for poor Kai (and his teachers!).

Whadabout it kenny?

I was at the cash point this morning with DD when two women came and stood next to us.

It was not so detailed but a bit like this
'yeah, I nick it and the cunt can't even flog it without getting caught. Shithead is out of prison soon and I am banging his mate. He will be well fucked. You shagged him to didn't you. Cunt'

I live in a pretty posh area.

DD was like this .

As we left I said 'did you hear that? And she said 'yes'. I asked ger what she thought and she said 'i think that's why I shouldcwork hard at school' which I thought was bloody funny and surprisingly smart. Not ger usual style at all.

I never would have posted it had I not been reminded by this thread.

I have never heard anything of this sort and I work in a regeneration area in the local JCP.

However, I have seen some catsbum faces when I mention in passing that DH is in Saughton or Peterhead or Barlinnie today.

Sometimes I expand and say he works for the Prison Service.

Sometimes I don't bother..........

dubai I once had the joy of hearing a girl loudly describe her abortion too in a pub smoking area. Naice.

Seems like its been prompted in some way by what jenny eclair et al were harping on about today, that s all.

Oh I've heard people talking all sorts of crap to each other, in person or on the phone. They are brazen. Often showing off to the rest of the bus

That's cool, Pag :)

That wasn't aggressive, I didn't see it so I wondered if it was interesting and what they were talking about it for ken

I believe the OP and I'm as Southern as you can get. I've also had the pleasure of supporting them in a quest for education.

Life is not all Boden-clad Waitrose-shopping people parking Overfinches in Parent & Child parking spaces

And OP, I sympathize with the frustration of people sat in that space on public transport, except I've had it when pushing a wheelchair not a pram. It happens and you learn to be a good shot with the footrest

They were talking about listeningto other peoples conversations as the executive producer decided it might be more interesting than listening to how jane mc donalds used to live with her mother.

I didn't think it was.

Kennyp, I think Loose Women is unmitigated shite and would never allow it to taint my TV, along with JK and the like. So no, it wasn't prompted by that, it was prompted by what I heard on the bus, as explained in my OP!

I can believe this would happen, I heard a woman effing and blinding to her friend outside the co-op this morning while blowing her cigarette smoke all over the tiny baby in the pram she was holding onto, makes me sad as well to think of what kind of life children of these women are destined for. Anyone who disbelieves that this kind of thing goes on is naïve.

I think you should report them for wearing fake tan, first and foremost. Those poor children.

I live up North and find this believable too, you do occasionally hear gobsmackingly awful convos on the bus, involving court appearances, prison, briefs, exclusions from school, and general violence.

Oh I totally believe you OP. It is not, indeed, all Boden and P and C parking woes round many of our necks of the collective woods.

I think I would have called the school though, if I could have worked out which one it was.

I think the people who don't believe the OP don't take buses very often. There is a town near me where, should you need to get on a bus, you will not have to wait long to hear similar, and then you can spend the day watching people swear at children and smack them up and down the streets

I always thought it was Tango women. But there you go.

Sorry OP - forgive my cynicism. Far from being sheltered and middle class, I spent a good few years living in one of Edinburgh's most notorious estates and never heard a conversation as graphic or detailed as the one you heard.

I'll always remember being on a bus with my mum, must have been 10 or so years ago on top deck with a bloke and a little girl Maybe 4, he was waffeling on about doing one more job then getting out and getting clean.

It always seemed an odd conversation to be having with a small child but it probably sounded worse than it was.

Stuck with me though.

I absolutely believe you! Nw here too! :(

Agree that peoe who think this must be made up live wonderful sheltered lives :(

I too have heard similar waiting for a friend outside a posh day spa which is next to a cash converters ( much to the spa's dismay!). I mean really open discussions about whether the dad was a useless fucker because he'd nicked a shit phone & there wouldn't be enough for weed, pills & vodka. Whilst they rolled up on the pushchair hood & balanced their cans of lager; it was 10.30am.

Really. It is sad. It does make you wonder. It did preoccupy me. I didn't do anything. I'm clearly spineless.

See, I have always lived my adult life in a sheltered middle class environment and I heard mine this afternoon.

I lived on a housing estate near the seven sisters road for many years and never heard anything like it there.

It's odd. Like an unlikely lottery win.

Maybe is Scotland we are more refined like, Pictish

Or maybe we drive everywhere.

I always thought it was Tango women. But there you go.

Tango is a lighter shade of Mahoganny in "fake tan speak"