To think "hurrah" when Pauline Quirke admits that when she was huge it was down to general greediness!

[hubbabubbabubba]

Just sick of people not being honest!
i dont believe in people being a size 0 at all, but surely being that large is not good for your health.
She has done brilliantly!

Oh dear

Fresh doughnuts anyone? They're still warm...

DuffyMoon - I completely identify with your post.

Mmmmmm doughnuts

Can I smell doughnuts?

Lighterlife is around 65 pounds a week. I know this as I asked the doctor to sign the paperwork for me to do it and he agreed to but mentioned I would struggle as I am also on steroids. I HATE being round - rather than fat- and have removed unhealthy carbs from my diet. I do eat fruit and veg. I have lost weight, not sure how much.

I have used food as a crutch for years and It does make me upset when Closer/ Heat etc do these fat celeb stories eg Clare Richards. They have trainers, nutrionists etc and then do big stories on the 'revelation' that is their weight loss. Then pile it back on.

No it isn't rocket science........ eat less exercise more........ but I am sure that hasn't escaped most over weight people. Its almost the thick and lazy assumption that f**S me off.

Rant over.............

There is far to much time on mumsnet spent debating how fat people stay fat, why they are fat and how they got fat

rather than how slim people stay slim, why they are slim and how they don't get any larger

I imagine the thread would be inundated with 's and accusations of stealth boasting!

Faverolls and Duffy - can I ask you something?
I am thinking of getting a local support group together for overweight people to meet and share and talk. I think group work can really help people with addiction issues but, as you say, there is very little out there for compulsive over eaters.

So I have been pondering doing some leaflets/adverts and getting the idea out there, locally, but have slightly cold feet. Will people be interested? Will I get no replies?

Just wondered if you would be interested in something like that if it was local to you, or would you not touch it with a bargepole?

What a lovely idea bibbity

I'd love to be a stress/upset non eater.

I eat more when I am upset. Waaa.

My housemate exists on saturated fat and sugar, doesn't exercise at all, but is very skinny without an ounce of fat anywhere. I doubt she's healthy though.

So people are willing to make excuses for extremely skinny people, that emotional issues may contribute to the problem, while refusing to accord the same sympathy to fat people whose eating may also be emotionally driven.

If I puked after every binge I would be suffering from an eating disorder and get sympathy. I can't puke (I have tried), so I'm just a greedy pig.

I have gone from a size 18 to a size 10, its been fucking hard work because I have had to learn how to be healthy.

I have a real problem with LighterLife style diets. Healthy eating is a habit that must be learned, these quick fix fad diets are a con and the dieters don't learn anything about how to maintain a healthy lifestyle afterwards.

I'm more than happy to admit that the reason I was overweight was because I just ate too much. In my early 20s I ate too much of the wrong things and hovered around a size 14 (I'm 5ft4) and then when I had the DC I quickly gained weight and after my second I was just about able to still get into an 18.

Now, back at a size 10 I am eating much smaller portions of better food. I really can't go much over 1000 calories a day or I gain weight very quickly. Its a bit sad to be limited to that but I want to stay healthy for my DC and so I sacrifice the cake and the chocolate and the take aways. I have them as a special treat but thats it now. I exercise 3 times a week, usually 2xgym and 1xswimming but for me its the food on my plate that seems to really make the difference to my weight.

I should add that I started over eating as a teenager after my mum died, it was a coping mechanism. Once that overeating behaviour is learned it is very hard to learn a new way.

Which is why I hate those faddy 'just have a shake' diets, they don't teach the skills you need to help overcome the problem.

What I really object to is the assumption that being slim automatically means being healthy.

Loads of slim people eat shit all day long and never exercise yet they are to be commended for their self control and lack of greed.

1000 calories a day to maintain your weight with exercise sounds like an incredibly tiny amount. No wonder you feel restricted.

Bibbity - yes I would love something like that! It's a really good idea.

I considered trying something like that, regular meet ups at peoples houses (bit like NCT coffee mornings, but less cake!) walks, swapping recipes etc. Getting a group of people together to see if the mutual support can help.

Have I missed 'the biggest loser' final does anybody know??

I was watching it and wanted to see the final, but I haven't seen it on! I think every overweight person ( if they wanted) should be given the chance to do that! God, I would love that challenge.

You would love to be an upset/stress non eater Yon

Its hardly a bundle of fun you know.

Pipra On a day to day basis I don't feel restricted to be honest. But if I stay around 1000 calories I know I can have the odd slice of cake at a friends house when I am offered and not then see it on the scales. I don't eat things like that as routine anymore, don't have them in the house anymore.

If I routinely eat say 1400 calories I put weight on steadily, so I don't. I have quite a petite frame (who knew under all that weight!!) so I don't really need too many calories I guess?

yy MrsDV, good point.

No sympathy for unhealthy, stressed but non-overweight people.

I was fairly slim when I was about to boot out XH. DD was only three months old and I was back full-time. I was going into work in the mornings having sodding bite-marks photographed by my boss but another member of staff took it upon herself to tell me (publicly) that she never worked when her children were babies and I must have an eating disorder because I was always "avoiding" lunch and was a bad example to the children I taught.

FFS - I was on the phone before work, during "breaks" and after work trying to get things sorted.

I havent eaten a meal for two weeks.
THis is my responsiblity, no one elses fault.
But I am very stressed atm. I just cant eat. I dont want to, I dont feel hungry.

But at least my life will be wonderful because I am slim

Its crap when food trips you up. It might be because she want to eat or because you dont. Neither is good and both can make your life very difficult.

< hands out buns ( for throwing ) to everyone at the thread door >

MrsDV Yes, its crap either way isn't it. Its that unhealthy link between emotions and food, its just crap and is really hard to overcome.

At the end of the day it's calories (engery) in vs. calories out. That's the simple part of course.

My sister is very overweight This has given her various medical problems and exaserbated ones that are not due to weight.

I myself was put on a bit of weight last year and since loosing a stone and a half I no longer have to feed myself indigestion medicine daily.

Oh and sister comfort eats and I go off food. Opposites.

MrsDv