To think that the English state education is useless

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Having seen 2 dc go through the English state education system I have no intention of putting dc3 through it.

It taught me very little that I have used since. The vast majority of the useful info and lessons I need for my life to function and be enjoyed have been sourced from mu own initative since leaving state education.

My 2 dc have never been taught to budget, cook, parent etc at school. Everything they know on these subjects have been learnt at home from their parents.

The hours spent in the classroom were of very litttle use since leaving education. Both have jobs and have learnt well on the job and in fe but have never had to know,

how many wives Henry the 8th had, what the average rainfall in the Amazon rain forrest is, any algebra, trigonometry, physics, chemistry or biology.

While I know it is important to have a base knowledge of many subjects and an idea of what may be a passion that can spark a later carreer, I think that kids today spend way too long learning utter useless crap in school , being tested and stressed out of their developing minds for way too long and from a ridiculously early age.

There I feel better now.

Hurrah for our state education!

This is such an ignorant post, I don't really know where to start.

There are lots of things wrong with our state education, but not really the one you have identified.

I don't think history has taught a list of facts for many decades, perhaps to our detriment as we have no sense of historical progression.

I very much doubt you have done much trigonometry.

As for not needing to know about biology, don't you want to know about plants, lifecycles, genetics, environmental debates?

The only point I agree on is that children here are tested too much too early, and this leads to a prioritization of performing to a test and not much creativity.

Otherwise, cooking sausage pie in home economics didn't do much for my culinary skills, so YABU.

parents pay their way out of their childs mister meaners

That is the best spelling mistake I have seen on here since a cockney mumsnetter typed cancel thinking that was how you spelled council.

Mister meaners!

I am going to love and treasure mister meaners for a very long time. I may even adopt it, prepare yourselves for a lot of Stratters' mister meaners posts.

mister meaners is grand.

I have a good O-level in geography but now have no idea what an oxbow lake is. It did, however, teach me about stuff that was outside my own experience, which is A Good Thing.

It's a bit of a bendy river that got left behind. :)

OP- think YABVU

Just because you're arguments against state education, as stated, are just so rubbish and ignorant. Give us some better arguments to back up your statement.Thanks

The OP's in for a shock if she goes private! They don't do any cooking at DS's school, it's double Latin instead.

I get the feeling she is against all academic education, not just state (and probably lives under a bridge, waiting for goats most of the time)

Probably she wants to Home Educate.

Mrmeaners would be a great post nn.

She should home educate then exotic instead of trying to imply that nobody uses maths, biology, chemistry and physics in their adult life as it is clearly an idiotic arguement.

If she home educates though I pity the child because considering the value OP appears to place on Maths and science subjects the poor child will miss out on a lot of useful skills and knowledge.

Yep, you are BU ... Have my very first !

Most of what I learnt at school has proved valuable. Sometimes in slightly off the wall ways, lacrosse taught me the invaluable life skill of accurately flicking horse poo into a stable corner. And hockey was exercise and self defence rolled into one.

As a teacher in an indie school who wanted to introduce cookery to the curriculum and was told no, I think what you need is not indie education but home education. As someone above said, at a private school you will get more pure academic stuff, not less.

Ds is at a prep school and does a cookery class. It is setting him up very well for his future life if he wants to live on pizza, fairy cakes and jam tarts

Employers are more concerned with experience than grades you get from school. In every job none of the applicants know how to do it until they are trained anyway. So what the point is of education is anyones guess.

the most you get out of school is from primary school where they teach you to read,write,spell and count. Everything else is garbage that can only be used in quiz shows.

history religion and English literature should be hobbies nothing more. They have no real world application when you realy get down to it. In every subjects you are taught alot of pointless facts and figures and taught things you can quite happily live without.

school should teach you important usefull life skills and if you want to specialise in something such as rocket science then and only then should you start learnng really complex math for example.

I am sorry, I know it is Not MN Etiquette and all, but I really have to point out to the poster above me that it is quite useful to be able to spell, punctuate and use capital letters.

"the most you get out of school is from primary school where they teach you to read,write,spell and count. Everything else is garbage that can only be used in quiz shows."

I really hope you had your tongue firmly in your cheek with that minimiss?

The alternative doesn't bear thinking about.

All of which, incidentally, I use daily in my job as a journalist.

Admittedly I did once find my MA on Edward Lear terribly useful in a local pub quiz. My team won and we all got a free meal at the excellent local Indian restaurant.

More seriously, I found being taught how to think, and to analyse, really quite valuable.

minimiss do you have a job? If so I'm curious to know what you do.

As I tell the kids when they say 'what is the point, when will I ever use this in real life?', they have no idea what path the rest of their life will take and therefore the point of school is to give them a good basic grounding in a variety of subjects so that they have as many options open to them as possible.

The idea that someone should only learn complex maths after they have decided to become a rocket scientist is bizarre, because it is usually the enjoying the study of complex maths (and physics, obviously) that puts the thought into people's minds.

Yes, you're not going to become a neurologist specialising in prion disease, for example, just because you say 'oh, I think that sounds quite whacky' at the age of 15. (Well, you might, obviously, but it's not madly likely on its own.) And in any case if you've been out of formal education - working down mines, presumably, or suchlike - for four years you'll have missed a crucial period in which to study the relevant topics.

"My 2 dc have never been taught to budget, cook, parent etc at school. Everything they know on these subjects have been learnt at home from their parents."
Which is as it should be.

OP, what form of education do you intend for DC3? Any?

Are you being serious mini?

For a start high school algebra is not complex maths.

As I said in previous posts I have used plenty of what I learnt at school in working life and I include what I learnt at Secondary school. I am positive I am not the only one. Granted employers place a lot of importance on work experience but it is still much of what I learnt at school that enables me to do the work that got me that experience.

mini seriously?