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To think this mum was rude in quizzing me over a play date I hosted yesterday

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Goldenbear · 01/03/2012 20:21

Yesterday my DS (4) had a friend from school around to play. It was organised last week but to be frank I felt she was very pushy about it. I wasn't very keen for a few reasons, we live a 40 minute walk from the school and a 10 minute drive not in traffic but about 25 minutes in rush hour. The parents don't own a car but they do drive and belong to a city car club. The car for this club is parked outside their house. I have a 10 month old so really did not want to drop the friend back in rush hour as I knew it would take about an hour and that my DD baby would fall to sleep at 6ish.

Last week the mother of DS's friend just assumed I would drop him back and said, 'what time will you be dropping him back?'. I was a bit taken aback and explained about DD thinking she might get the hint and say she would of course pick him up. She only has the one child and her partner comes home every day at 5.30 so either one could have come over in the car club car or a cab. Anyway, she didn't get the hint and I didn't want to be miserable about it in front of the boys so I said about 6.

Fast forward to the playdate. I spent most of my time in the kitchen with DD so the boys could get on with playing. They seemed to have a good time, then it was dinner and they had blackcurrant juice with it. We have cream carpets which were here before we moved in, I asked them to be careful with the juice but not using a scrict tone. Anyway, I went to fetch the food and came back through, DS's friend was sitting on the table moving a truck toy about and in doing so knocked over the black currant juice. I rushed to clear it up and said, 'don't worry accidents happen.' but he wasn't worried, upset, in fact he was laughing about it, spreading it around the table with his hand and said it was like purple wee dripping through the bench.

After school today DS's friend's mum asked me how I think the playdate went. I said, 'good', as I thought that it was fine. I then asked the 2 boys and TBH I thought they'd agree but her DS said that he didn't enjoy it. They ran off to play on the school field and then she brought up the blackcurrant spillage. I said what happened and that my DS said in a jokey tone that his daddy would be cross if his friend deliberately made it worse but as I said above, the friend appeared to like his messy play! He was happy, laughing. The mother seemed to think he was traumatised by the whole thing. She called him over, got me to explain that I was fine about the accident and told my DS off for scaring him with the Dad comment.

Bearing in mind she manipulated the play date at mine in that she said she would like to have my DS around to play and then said her son would like to go to mine and directly asked, 'when can you have him next week? Also, bear in mind the presumption that I would drop him back in rush hour, am I reasonable in feeling that she was rude to scrutinise the events of the playdate?

Neither did he thank me when I dropped him off. She told him to and he still wouldn't!

OP posts:
Goldenbear · 02/03/2012 10:58

She was concerned for her child over a Juice spillage. Fair enough if he witnessed some terrible event. I don't think it is necessary to give someone the third degree over nothing - she is isolating her son by being so involved and encouraging him to report back to her if everything isn't his way or their way in this case! People do not invite him on playdates anymore or to parties because of her - she is so intense!

I'm perfectly capable of protecting my son but I'm not prepared to have a fall out in front of parents and teachers. My son didn't even know what she was on about.

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BoysBoysBoysAndMe · 02/03/2012 11:03

I don't see what the fuss is about, you obviously clash.

Just put it down to experience

Goldenbear · 02/03/2012 11:14

Well neither did i she still felt the need to bring it up! I know that's not what you mean but yes I will make a fuss when I am been held to account over nothing and by someone who bullies there way through life thinking no one will pull them up on it.

She doesn't think we clash, I wish she did but she won't leave me alone, bending my ear about injustices experienced by her son! I think I'm the last one to tolerate the conversations but not anymore.

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bochead · 02/03/2012 11:43

Unless there's a specific pre-agreed reason (eg one friends Uni interview recently) then the "owner" of the child collects round here. Child always ready at door with coat & shoes on at agreed pick up time. "Thank you for having me Mrs So & So" is recited and off they go.

I do ask details of activities & food cos my son has AS, so not everything is suitable for him and it's nicer for everyone if we bow out gracefully rather than risk a disaster and the other untrained Mum being left feeling awful. In return I let others know what activities I'm offering - out of courtesy as much as anything to show reciprocation. (DS's aren't always immediately obvious so there's a risk of other parents thinking I'm being precious, whereas in reality if he has dairy he'll poop everywhere all over their houseBlush)

I do ask parents to explain their "house rules" to my son as he enters, as he anxious in strange places unless he knows where he stands. Silly stuff like whether they take their shoes off in the house, what rooms are off limits (usually parental, older sisters bedrooms). It helps an awful lot to ensure play dates are successful. At ours I explain our house rules to the visiting child as they enter, esp re the dog and cat. I also show em where the loo is. (It also gives me the chance to know when to lock our animals away if the visitor is terrified of animals so they can have a nice time at ours).

Lots of children have spilt drinks, noone has ever deliberately made the mess worse - I'm suprised. Is this how the child behaves in their own home? (Some of DS's playmates are also SEN, including a couple with potentially challenging behavior such as ADHD)

This Mum has a bit of an "entitled" attitude imho, and it sounds as if she's passed it onto her kids. That's a personal bugbear of mine. In future this child would be invited on group picnics but I'd skip any playdates in my home from now on. For me playdates should be a relaxed enjoyable experience for me as well as the kids.

Goldenbear · 02/03/2012 11:59

boc, you sound very proper, organised with your playdates. I think I could probably do with improving my skills in hosting as I often retreat to the kitchen, intermittently checking.

I did ask her if he had any food requirements and anything I need to know but nothing was mentioned so, foolishly, I thought everything would be fine. I've never had problems before.

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cornsilkalala · 02/03/2012 12:11

the other mum sounds like a neurotic nightmare. I'm with the OP

Kenobi · 02/03/2012 15:30

I'm with you too OP. What are you going to do?

If it were me I reckon cancel the play date or ask her to host it. Lots of smiling while being very firm. There's a massive gap between telling someone to fuck off in a playground and not standing up for your actions at all of course, it's not one or the other. I imagine you were blind-sided by the weirdness of her.

She sounds wildly precious.

Bunbaker · 03/03/2012 09:26

If the other mum wanted her son and yours to play together why didn't she invite your son to tea instead?

Proudnscary · 03/03/2012 09:28

I had some of the dc's friends over yesterday...wasn't aware I was 'hosting a playdate'!

Bunbaker · 03/03/2012 09:36

I never called them "playdates" either. It was simply a friend over to play. I think this is a recent thing.

Proudnscary · 03/03/2012 09:40

Yes I know everyone calls them playdates now. Just sounds so grand in OP's OP to say 'yesterday I hosted a playdate'. Made me larf.

Molehillmountain · 03/03/2012 10:23

What I have learnt about playdates:

  1. don't plan too far ahead-a surprise works much better for my dd
  2. I collect both from school, other parent collects from my house unless suits me better or they need a drop off . If the parent is late, the next time I offer to drop back
  3. no juice of any kind, and only cream coloured biscuits- def no chocolate.
  4. it is something to get through rather than a treat for me.
FilterCoffee · 03/03/2012 10:50

Sounds like you need to be very assertive with this person to avoid her giving you orders!

Eggrules · 03/03/2012 11:04

Just about to enter into this phase.

Love bochead's approach.
I also think that owner collects Grin

I would assume I would pick up other child from school. 6PM sounds like a good end time. Any advice for getting rid of chatty parents?

pigletmania · 03/03/2012 17:11

Just say no your busy and keep saying no. Practice it in the mirror. Turn it onto her, suggest your ds come round for a playdate

sensuallettuce · 03/03/2012 17:31

Anyone who uses the term "playdate" IBU - HATE it, why do we have to be so "americanised"?!

Do people seriously dissect these events afterwards?

If so I am so glad my kids are now old enough to organise their own social lives :)

Floggingmolly · 03/03/2012 17:39

The other mum sounds like a pushy PITA, but you op, sound like a pushover. Just because someone is thick enough to dish out crap, doesn't mean you must meekly accept it, you know?

2rebecca · 03/03/2012 18:51

My kids had friends round to play and it was usually the parent's job to pick them up afterwards unless for some reason one of us was going out anyway.
In this case I'm not sure what you are worried about. Your son thought this kid was rude, the kid said he didn't enjoy himself, the mum has been stroppy and they live some distance away and are lazy about picking him up. To me that would be an easy "no thanks, we're busy at the moment and your son didn't enjoy himself."
Mind you I'm probably fairly assertive as if a parent came to pick a kid up and he was pissing about I'd happily chase him up and shoo him out myself. I think some parents have difficulty asserting themselves in someone else's house so provided they made the first move in calling for the child I'll happily finish the job off.

bringbacksideburns · 03/03/2012 18:51

You are overthinking it.

They both sound pushy and a bit of a pain.

Make your excuses next time. We live and learn!

CremeEggThief · 03/03/2012 19:27

YANBU, OP. I wouldn't have that child back again either, as the mother sounds a nightmare! The only thing I would suggest you do differently with other parents is forget about hinting and just be straight with them. Try practising something like "No, sorry, I can't drop Child X back, because I start DD's bath then, so it would be great if you could collect him at... (a time 15-20 minutes before the bath). "

captainmummy · 04/03/2012 13:39

I once had a boy round for a 'playdate'(what else can we call it?) - he brought a big bag of those Yu-Gi-Oh cards, rememebr them? This was a tescos carrier bag full of them. Anyway he and ds1 played with ds's toys until the mum turned up .....then he said 'oh but i havent played with these yet' and tipped the bag out over the floor. I could see them getting stuck into the cards until midnight, but the mum's standing there weakly asking him to come home, calling him by a pet name Hmm. I had to get down and pick up all the cards, saying nicely 'well next time you can play with these'.

There wasn't a next time.

this is why i always used to take the child home in my own car - i could be a lot more assertive without the mum there.

DublinMammy · 04/03/2012 13:59

Rude parents will usually result in rude children. A 4 year old should definitely say "thank you". I wouldn't bother having him again and if you do then you really need to make it clear that you cannot drop him home as it doesn't suit you. She's a cheeky cow to even ask you to do that - you've had her horrible ungrateful bossy little brat DS all afternoon, she is responsible for getting him home, not you.

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