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To think this mum was rude in quizzing me over a play date I hosted yesterday

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Goldenbear · 01/03/2012 20:21

Yesterday my DS (4) had a friend from school around to play. It was organised last week but to be frank I felt she was very pushy about it. I wasn't very keen for a few reasons, we live a 40 minute walk from the school and a 10 minute drive not in traffic but about 25 minutes in rush hour. The parents don't own a car but they do drive and belong to a city car club. The car for this club is parked outside their house. I have a 10 month old so really did not want to drop the friend back in rush hour as I knew it would take about an hour and that my DD baby would fall to sleep at 6ish.

Last week the mother of DS's friend just assumed I would drop him back and said, 'what time will you be dropping him back?'. I was a bit taken aback and explained about DD thinking she might get the hint and say she would of course pick him up. She only has the one child and her partner comes home every day at 5.30 so either one could have come over in the car club car or a cab. Anyway, she didn't get the hint and I didn't want to be miserable about it in front of the boys so I said about 6.

Fast forward to the playdate. I spent most of my time in the kitchen with DD so the boys could get on with playing. They seemed to have a good time, then it was dinner and they had blackcurrant juice with it. We have cream carpets which were here before we moved in, I asked them to be careful with the juice but not using a scrict tone. Anyway, I went to fetch the food and came back through, DS's friend was sitting on the table moving a truck toy about and in doing so knocked over the black currant juice. I rushed to clear it up and said, 'don't worry accidents happen.' but he wasn't worried, upset, in fact he was laughing about it, spreading it around the table with his hand and said it was like purple wee dripping through the bench.

After school today DS's friend's mum asked me how I think the playdate went. I said, 'good', as I thought that it was fine. I then asked the 2 boys and TBH I thought they'd agree but her DS said that he didn't enjoy it. They ran off to play on the school field and then she brought up the blackcurrant spillage. I said what happened and that my DS said in a jokey tone that his daddy would be cross if his friend deliberately made it worse but as I said above, the friend appeared to like his messy play! He was happy, laughing. The mother seemed to think he was traumatised by the whole thing. She called him over, got me to explain that I was fine about the accident and told my DS off for scaring him with the Dad comment.

Bearing in mind she manipulated the play date at mine in that she said she would like to have my DS around to play and then said her son would like to go to mine and directly asked, 'when can you have him next week? Also, bear in mind the presumption that I would drop him back in rush hour, am I reasonable in feeling that she was rude to scrutinise the events of the playdate?

Neither did he thank me when I dropped him off. She told him to and he still wouldn't!

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WorraLiberty · 01/03/2012 21:17

Whenever I invite my son's friends round to play, I always assume the responsibility of getting them home is down to me...especially if I've taken them straight from school.

However as I don't drive, I make a point of saying "I'll walk him back home to your about X time?"

That's the point where they normally say they'll pick him up in the car to save me the trouble and so their little darlings don't have to do any of that nasty walking

Goldenbear · 01/03/2012 21:22

creamola, yes perhaps, that has made me laugh. Although, maybe I do come across totally different to how I think I do. I think I'm stricter than his mum but it would be hard not to be. I have different tones but I think they are ok.

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PattiMayor · 01/03/2012 21:25

Here, you take the kid back to your house and then the parent comes and collects them. No one has ever invited themselves round to my house though - that's really rude. Actually having said that, DS did invite himself round to a friend's house but I wouldn't dream of it. And they are best friends (thankfully his mum was really nice about it)

GrahamTribe · 01/03/2012 21:26

The woman sounds like a goddamned nightmare! If I were you I'd be busy for the foreseeable future and invite other children, with better mannered parents, to play. I knew a child just like the one in your OP. He "didn't have to share", would hurt other DC if they won a game or were smarter than him in an activity and so on, all while his doting mama looked on with a smile. She used to say he was "sensitive". Hmm Needless to say I don't know them any more.

Goldenbear · 01/03/2012 21:30

I don't think she liked the fact that I left them to it either. Asking me if I picked up on them not getting on etc. I said I was only intermittently checking. I am no child entertainer and feel a bit of an imposter to their play time if I'm sitting guiding it all. She is a childminder and very proactive in showing them how to play, what to play.

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UniS · 01/03/2012 21:31

play dates with Year R and 1 kids do need a bit of straight talking between the grown ups to make sure they work.

Work out your non negotiable's - pick up time, dinner time etc. stick to them.

Rather cheeky of someone to ASK for a playdate AND drop off. I have let DS go to play on teh understanding he will be dropped back as I don't have access to car and friend who INVITED him lived 4 miles away. There is a child who comes here & I walk them home as they have several siblings and I've been told when tea time is as her deadline for being back home.

ChippyMinton · 01/03/2012 21:31

I have to say, that after a few similar incidents where visiting childrens' behaviour didn't coincide with my not particularly high standards (manners, sharing, making a mess, breaking stuff etc etc), I instigated a 'one strike and you never darken my door again' policy on having friends over. It works for me.

TheCrackFox · 01/03/2012 21:35

Completely agree with chippyminton - I give children one chance and if they or their parents piss me off they do not get a 2nd invite.

Gumby · 01/03/2012 21:35

God play dates ( hate that phrase) are pita
We walk home on busy road, 20 minute walk
The playdate kid either runs off (strictly forbidden for my two but the excitment overtakes them & they join in and it stresses me out) or complain it's too far to walk

aquashiv · 01/03/2012 21:41

I dont know how these playdates came to be? When I was a child your friend to play Ihave no recollection of drops offs or the like you had some tea watched a bit of tv played with afew dolls and went home. The end.

He is 4 but he should have said thank you for having me thats the law!!Smile.

captainmummy · 01/03/2012 21:43

Thank God no more 'playdates' for my lot! I got so fed up with the mum turning up at 6pm and standing in my hall going 'come on now... come on now...come on now' in a pathetic weedy voice while the dc ran about totally ignoring her and leaving me to make small talk whilst inwardly seething 'go and bl@@dy get him you wimp!' so I used to bundle them into my car and take them back myself!
Am getting worked up just remembering.

captainmummy · 01/03/2012 21:46

Oh and one time the mum turned up and said to her son 'what do you say?' and he said 'oh, err,happy birthday; you look nice; well done; goodnight - well I have to toggle through!'

did make me laugh but he didn't actually say thank you.

Kenobi · 01/03/2012 21:48

You have a ready made excuse. Just say that you can't drop him off as it really didn't work with your 10 month old's routine and of course you understand if she doesn't want to do the play date anymore.

Goldenbear · 02/03/2012 07:01

worral, I've honestly never known it to be the case that the host brings the child home. My son since starting school has been to and hosted 7 playdates. I picked him up when he went to other childrens' houses and parents, other than the one in question have picked up. One mother's brakes went on driving over to mine and she still insisted and getting a cab over to pick the child up!

I'm not really bothered about the lift. However, she asked me for the playdate and I think it is rude to assume I would give him a lift back. She uses the car from the car club that is parked outside her house. She said she only doesn't have a car because she lives right in the middle of the city centre and it is unnecessary. I used to do the same when I lived near the city centre. My DP gets back late, too late to drop the playdates off. Her DP drives, as does she, he gets in on the dot at 5.30 because he works around the corner from where they live, I fail to see why she couldn't consider the fact that it is more trouble for me to drive her son home in rush hour! It is rude IMO to expect your child, who has just been entertained and fed, to then be expected to deliver them home.

Anyway, as I said the issue for me is the dressing down I received, in front of other parents over the quality of the playdate! I was almost made to apologise as she called her DS over from playing with MY SON to explain myself regarding the juice incident! Not in my wildest dreams would I think that it was acceptable to do this to another parent.

As others have pointed out I no longer need to host for this boy. I didn't point out that her son was very happy to tell my son what he could play with, how he could play with his OWN toys. He also kept slamming my DS's door and as a result the handle has come off- didn't mention this as I didn't want him to worry about it!

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Goldenbear · 02/03/2012 07:08

Yes Gumby, I hate the phrase to and hate hosting them but feel I have to do them for my Son to feel included and often I have done payback ones.

When I was young effectively I did go on playdates as I went to private school and everyone lived too far away from each other to play locally. I was very envious of my brother who had local friends as he went to the local state primary.

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Icelollycraving · 02/03/2012 07:16

Oh Jesus,I have all this in years to come. When she asks again,just say 'no,I'm afraid that doesn't work with my baby's routine at all'. If she starts being pushy about them being friends,just smile & say 'oh how lovely,I'm sure ds would love to come to you,what time will you drop him back?' Doubt it'll happen & she will back off swiftly :o

ladyintheradiator · 02/03/2012 07:51

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pinkdelight · 02/03/2012 08:31

Hear hear, ladyintheradiator. Also don't expect so much of 4 year olds. You can tell them to say thank you but they might be on another planet. Let it go.

valiumredhead · 02/03/2012 08:35

What lady said especially about blackcurrant juice! Grin

pigletmania · 02/03/2012 08:49

Just say no, your busy and will let her know and leave it at that!

wineandroses · 02/03/2012 10:08

If you thought it was rude to assume you'd drive the child home (and I agree, it is rude to assume and not the norm), why didn't you just say no? And as to the "dressing down" and being "made to apologise" - good grief, are you a grown-up? How can you be made to apologise?

Goldenbear · 02/03/2012 10:25

Thanks to the above for monumentally missing the point!

YES, the mum in question did make a huge fuss about nothing - I was totally oblivious to anything being wrong with the playdate until the mother approached me about it yesterday afternoon, giving me the third degree about her precious son's trauma with regard to the drink spillage! I cleaned it up, said, 'accidents happen', didn't think anything of it until SHE brought it up! I didn't give it a second thought until SHE scrutinised the playdate yesterday.

This is what my proposition was- AIBU over her quizzing me over a playdate, get this, that I was manipulated into providing by her- asking me in front of the boys. Whether I was unreasonable to serve a certain beverage to my child and his friend was not the question. I repeat I don't give a hoot about a drink spillage, blackcurrant or otherwise!

pinkdelight, he is one of those children 'on another planet'. It is in retrospect that I commented on him not saying thanks as I was trying to portray the general indulgence surrounding this child. I don't care for a thank you, I know they're not often forthcoming at 4 but it's the sum of parts with this child. He is pandered to, given the third degree by his mother over who upset him, even if he's fine or he's been unkind to others - she is blind to it!

Just to repeat I wasn't asking on how to change my personality in order to come across as rude and arrogant lady!

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Goldenbear · 02/03/2012 10:34

wine, I said almost made to apologise, not made to. Yes I am an adult - how is that a helpful comment. Golly gosh!!! yes why didn't I just tell the child and her to F off in the playground, perhaps that would've been a more suitable adult response. She asked me to reassure him it was an accident and then told my DS off for making the remark about his dad being cross if proceeded with the messy play.

Yes I should have said no about the lift but she put me on the spot in front of the boys....like I said that's not what I'm asking!

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BoysBoysBoysAndMe · 02/03/2012 10:44

If she was concerned for her child how can she be in the wrong asking you?

Seems she wanted to check her sons story.

However, I would have stood up for my son if another woman decided it was ok to tell my child off for a comment he made ( about his dad) your son is four at the end of the day and the only person to have words with him is you and your partner imo

mrudagawa · 02/03/2012 10:48

You live and learn. Don't do her a favour again and don't give children the opportunity to spill purple liquid on cream carpets.