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AIBU?

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to think if your boss picks you up for work every morning

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Catsdontcare · 23/02/2012 10:55

that you should be there waiting bang on time or even a minute or two earlier and not be wandering down the street 2 or 3 minutes late.

I know a couple of minutes sounds petty but I loathe bad time keeping and this seems to be boardering on fucking rude because it is everyday. They are never there waiting when the car pulls up.

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mojitomania · 23/02/2012 10:57

Don't do it then?

Anniegetyourgun · 23/02/2012 10:58

If you were a vengeful person (I assume you are the boss in question) it could be career-limiting as well as rude.

QuintessentialyHollow · 23/02/2012 10:58

Tell them if they are there they get a lift. If they are not waiting by the road side they will need to find their own way in. And remind them that getting to work is their responsibility and not their boss'.

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Catsdontcare · 23/02/2012 10:59

This is what I'm thinking but just wanted to know if it's totally anal to get wound up by someone being a couple of minutes late.

Am planning on just driving on if they aren't there waiting but wondered if that's a bit shitty.

They have been spoken to abouty it by the way, they know it's an issue which makes it worse.

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Catsdontcare · 23/02/2012 11:01

Have no problem with the giving of a lift at all just the late thing makes me want to bite them (I won't)

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EdinburghRocks · 23/02/2012 11:03

Oh, I would hate that. I get a lift sometimes and realise how lucky I am. I am always standing there ten minutes early. The roads are so busy, theres hardly anywhere to pull up.

WorraLiberty · 23/02/2012 11:05

It's very rude.

My DH gets a lift to work every day and he's always ready at least 10 mins before the guy turns up.

ChaoticAngel · 23/02/2012 11:05

You've spoken to them about it so they've had fair warning so next time don't wait.

SwimmingThroughSickLullabies · 23/02/2012 11:08

Oh lateness makes my blood boil.

If someone is doing you a favour the least you can do would be to be on time. but to be late for your own boss is pure ignorance.

QuintessentialyHollow · 23/02/2012 11:08

It is very disrespectful.

When you do drive on without them, and they get in late, I would say something like "I assumed you had made your own way in when you were not waiting by the roadside. Lateness is not accepted, and I expect to see you at work 9 am sharp with the rest of us". OR something to that effect.

It is not shitty to drive on.

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Catsdontcare · 23/02/2012 11:09

Right from tomorrow if not there I keep driving. I just can't get my head round the mentality of it. They know it's an issue but continue to do it and then sulk when pulled up on it.

wouldn't a normal person be worried about their job prospects?

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QuintessentialyHollow · 23/02/2012 11:12

I guess it depends on how old they are, and what job they do, and how senior you are?

Is letting them go due to bad time keeping (soon) an option? It seems to me that they do not have much respect for you as their manager, if they behave like this. I would be terrified to piss my manager off in this way.

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Catsdontcare · 23/02/2012 11:17

They're young but not teens so I don't think age is an excuse. The buck stops with me so could show them the door today if I wanted to. Outside of the time keeping they are generally fine.

Hmm think we will eliminate the lifts and go from there. I actually think maybe I've eased them in too gently and they are taking it all for granted. I want to be a fair employer but I think maybe they need to earn their stripes a bit. They do get other perks which I think is what annoys me too.

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QuintessentialyHollow · 23/02/2012 11:21

Make sure you bring up timekeeping on your next review with them. Or call them into a meeting one by one to discuss timekeeping. But, maybe wait with this one, until they are actually late.

I reckon they figure the ride is before working hours start, so unless they make you all late for work, they reckon they are fine. (But they are of course not)

Stop the rides. Let the know they will make their own way in from now on, as you must be earlier than seem to be convenient for them.

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Catsdontcare · 23/02/2012 11:28

Yes i think that's it they think noone is really late so it's not an issue. I guess the fact that we do not have to be there bang on the dot gives them impression that time is not an issue.

Ho hum will stop the lifts and see how we go.

Thank you for the advice good to know I'm not being unfair

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SardineQueen · 23/02/2012 11:29

Some people are always always 2 or 3 mins late. Just always.

Just say that if they aren't there you're not going to stop.

That's totally fair enough IMO.

aldiwhore · 23/02/2012 11:31

I don't think it matters that much that you're the boss, they're still being rude.

Just keep driving.

I'd try and separate this issue from work, as its not at work... though their time keeping IS an issue (or certainly will be now you're going to drive by)

Don't get angry. Get even.

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Catsdontcare · 23/02/2012 11:36

That's a good point aldiwhore it's not technically a work issue. I guess it only becomes one if they make their own way to work and fail to get there in good time. That will be very telling I guess.

Maybe once they realise how much travelling costs I have been saving them they will realise.

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EdinburghRocks · 23/02/2012 12:09

I doubt you can show someone the door because they dont turn up on time for a lift to work!!! that would be pulling your weight abit.

What you can do though is say, Im sorry but I dont like rushing in the morning and as you cant meet me on time you will have to get public transport from now on.

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myBOYSareBONKERS · 23/02/2012 12:48

umm...

think you need to separate this into personal time and professional time really.

After all you are giving them a lift out of work hours (unless you are paid for commuting) and work starts at 9am.

You don't want to run the risk of being accused of unprofessional behaviour for telling them off for technically a personal matter.

If you were just colleagues how would you handle it then?

I would warn them that you will drive on and not wait in future AND then if they are late in work you can address that as a separate issue.

RosieBooBoo · 23/02/2012 12:58

If its just a couple of minutes (which annoys the hell out of me!) is your car clock and their watch/clock on the same time?

5Foot5 · 23/02/2012 13:11

Persistent lateness lik this really annoys me. Some people seem to think it doesn't matter and have a casual attitude to it but I think it is plain rude.

On a related issue - if you had asked someone to give you a lift somewhere, picking you up at your house, and you knew what time they would be coming, wouldn't you be watching out for them or at the very least listening out for a knock at the door? Not keeping them waiting on the doorstep in the rain, knocking and knocking and even trying to ring you up to see if you were actually in, before you could be arsed to answer the door?

Or if you asked for a lift and then subsequently didn't need it you would let the person know so they didn't make a special journey via your house and repeated the above performance.

Just saying. Nothing to do with the fact that both these things happened to me in the last 24 hours...

GinPalace · 23/02/2012 13:15

suspect it is a similar mentality to why the closer you live to work the finer you cut it when you are setting off - people who liver further away make more effort . It is too convenient. I would give them a final warning and say the VERY next time it happens you will not wait and if they subsequently fail to arrive at work on time there will be panalties for that too - just to make it clear that it won't be a useable excuse and they have personal reposnsibilty.

It would drive me wild - very disrespectful.

misslinnet · 23/02/2012 13:18

It's rude, regardless of who's giving them a lift.

Although personally, I'd warn them in advance if you're planning on driving on if they're not waiting.

MateyMooo · 23/02/2012 13:21

thing is the employee is making thier timekeeping your responisbility.

stop the lifts.

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