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To think this should be banned everywhere? *May be upsetting, sorry.*

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SchrodingersMew · 23/02/2012 00:01

A couple of nights ago with a few friends we were talking about horror films and how some are going beyond what should be allowed. Normally i love horror films but one was mentioned called "A Serbian Film". This film was shown in cinemas and shows graphically the rape of a new born baby and the graphic anal rape of a 6 year old boy.
AIBU to think that some things should just not be allowed to be shown?

I'm disgusted after reading reviews and seeing many call the film "art".

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mayorquimby · 23/02/2012 00:41

"Mayor Just so you know how graphic we are talking, the baby scene shows the child being born and the man who delivered the baby instantly raping it and killing it.
The child rape scene was the characters Son and it shows him anally raping the child and while he is pouring blood continuing while his wife is being raped beside him."

Sounds fucked up, but I still wouldn't be in favour of censoring it as long as nobody was hurt in making it.
I'd never watch it in a million years but I wouldn't seek to stop anyone else from doing so.

TheSecondComing · 23/02/2012 00:42

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SchrodingersMew · 23/02/2012 00:42

TSC Seriously? Sometimes when you are thinking about something completely disturbing you need to talk about it. I just can't believe that anyone could enjoy watching this.

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GoingForGoalWeight · 23/02/2012 00:43

The very nature of the story/scenes within the synopsis should be offputting. Who in their right mind, would care what the scenes in question are supposed to represent, all in the name of 'art'?.

Surely there were other ways of expression. Seems to me the lowest level was sunk to purely for the purposes of raking in the most commercial/financial exposure.

It was only a matter of time before this type of film was made

The people that made this film are depraved perverts and so are the viewers.

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SchrodingersMew · 23/02/2012 00:44

Yes, I'm promoting it by saying how disgusting I think it is. Hmm

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TheSecondComing · 23/02/2012 00:47

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SchrodingersMew · 23/02/2012 00:49

You know, there may be no need for me to give details but you also don't have to read it!

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runningforthebusinheels · 23/02/2012 00:51

Mayor Quimby, are you really ok with child porn flicks as long as nobody was hurt in the making? There are some very good laws against it you know - somehow the film in question sidestepped it by being 'art' or something.

GoingForGoalWeight · 23/02/2012 00:54

I thank you OP for alerting me to this utter filth. I now know never to open links promoting this new movie.

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SchrodingersMew · 23/02/2012 00:55

TSC - It's not a weird thread to start, i was upset about something and I posted asking others opinions.

If you're thinking I'm a troll then by all means report me as I'm not. I genuinely just wanted to know if anyone thought this kind of thing was okay.

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TotemPole · 23/02/2012 00:56

I'm not sure I'm a depraved pervert.Hmm

I watched it because I wanted to see what all the fuss was about and if it was as bad as what was being said.

I didn't enjoy it. Over all it was quite boring with a few shock scenes thrown in. I've seen enough foreign language films to know that it wasn't language that was the barrier.

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SchrodingersMew · 23/02/2012 00:59

Totem, obviously I didn't mean anyone who watched it was a pervert, just that it would be completely wrong to enjoy those scenes.

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NunOnTheRun · 23/02/2012 01:00

sorry...
this was the relevant MN thread -v-
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/1232044-or-over-sensitive/AllOnOnePage

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SchrodingersMew · 23/02/2012 01:08

Looking at that other thread, I realise i probably shouldn't have posted this one. Have probably over reacted.

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TotemPole · 23/02/2012 01:10

Schrodingers, I honestly think a lot of people who watched it would have done just to see if it lived up to the hype.

Even if you took out the shock scenes, I would not recommend the film to anyone.

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SchrodingersMew · 23/02/2012 01:15

When we were talking about it the friend who mentioned it to me put it on, I have seen most but skipped past the baby scene. I'm normally one of those people who watch films for the hype, Human Centipede 1&2, Saw movies,Hostel movies, various Japanese films and the movie grotesque that was completely banned here.
This is the only one to have ever actually bothered me.

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Thumbwitch · 23/02/2012 01:16

Schrodinger, thanks for highlighting the shittiness of the film's content. I was pretty sure it was nothing I wanted to see when I'd heard about it on other threads but I might have been curious as to why it was so bad - now I do know, I can avoid it completely.

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SchrodingersMew · 23/02/2012 01:19

Thumb - I'm sorry, I realise no I shouldn't have explained it so graphically. I have asked for this thread to be removed in case I upset anyone else.

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Thumbwitch · 23/02/2012 01:22

Schrodingers, I was genuinely thanking you, I promise. I now know exactly why I don't want or need to ever see that film - and if you hadn't posted the detail I might have always wondered if it was worth giving it a try to see what was so bad - and then I would never have lost the pictures out of my head. You've saved me from that - I'll be able to forget your few words of description quite quickly.

solidgoldbrass · 23/02/2012 01:42

Oh do keep up, this was being wanked over (by those who get wet underwear from their own OUTRAGE and MORAL SUPERIORITY as they scream for censorship) more than a year ago. When it came out. It sounds a most unappealing film to me, I prefer zombies and car crashes myself but ISTR the film-maker was traumatized by war in Serbia and making a Serbian-centric political point about how Life Is Hell. Not just getting his jollies from doing naughty shocking things. And no individual was hurt in the making of it.
People who make art, whether that's paintings, crayonings, poetry or films, sometimes make stuff that's upsetting. Sometimes their intention is to make you think, or indeed make you do something about a particular injustice or tragedy; sometimes they are working out their own distress. And a lot of the time, the greater the person's distress and sincerity, actually the more shitty and unwatchable the art, because suffering doesn't necessarily make you articulate or artistic.

spiderslegs · 23/02/2012 01:43

The film's been discussed before - TBH - it is fiction & if you read interviews with the director it's not gratuitous torture porn as many freely accepted films are now - I think his point was directly opposed to that - yes it's vile - if you feel a little prurient there is much out there you can hang your hat on.

The complete & utter vileness of the film was the entire point of it.

But you can't see that op.

So carry on.

spiderslegs · 23/02/2012 01:44

Oh - hello SGB - X posts

CheerfulYank · 23/02/2012 01:54

I don't know if anything that doesn't depict actual rape, torture or death should be banned, because it's an extremely slippery slope.

I do know that I would never ever ever watch this film, and that I still feel ill when I think about the description I read on it a year ago.

butterflyexperience · 23/02/2012 06:39

Yanbu