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To suggest that postmen deliver and parcels are delivered?

34 replies

HaveYouTakenLeaveOfYourCervix · 08/02/2012 23:03

Babies are born.

Women labour and birth.

Midwives catch.

AIBU?

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HOMEMADECHUTNEY · 08/02/2012 23:08

No, just totally out of step with the 21st century (and possibly the latter half of the 20th century) Grin

HaveYouTakenLeaveOfYourCervix · 08/02/2012 23:17

'deliver' is such a dark-ages term. completely outdated and should IMHO be banned.

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Freshlettice · 08/02/2012 23:34

Midwifes deliver the baby into the world i.e they facilitate it's movement from inside the mother to the outside, like a postman delivers a letter from the outside to the inside. Case closed

oikopolis · 08/02/2012 23:57

the original expression was "the mother was delivered of a child", basically meaning "she was saved [from the child killing her]".

"Deliver", in its archaic sense, means "save". "Deliver us from evil" and so on. It is quite a chilling expression, yes.

YouOldSlag · 09/02/2012 07:35

Language evolves and changes constantly and it's a good thing. Deliver is now the accepted term and I honestly can't see any problem with it.

Shutupanddrive · 09/02/2012 07:41

So you want midwives to catch babies and not deliver them? Hmm

Ladygahgah · 09/02/2012 07:47

Laughing at catching a baby!...."the baby was caught at 12-32pm"Grin

Language changes...tis the beautiful thing about it. Words evolve with times, just like we do.....

HaveYouTakenLeaveOfYourCervix · 09/02/2012 07:55

the baby was born at 12.32.

Deliver wasthe accepted term in 1545. I think it is very out of c=date and it is time for a change.

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Ladygahgah · 09/02/2012 08:06

I guess we can't "dial" a phone anymore either! And I for one still "tape" off of sky digitalBlush. My point is old words that have outlived their official place in time, still have a place today. I like the word deliver....dunno why I am fighting its corner at 8am when I need to do the school run. Even though we walk....WinkGrin

laurenamium · 09/02/2012 08:12

Postmen don't deliver they post! Delivery men deliver!

HaveYouTakenLeaveOfYourCervix · 09/02/2012 08:16

i don't really care who delivers post, milk or pizza, not midwives. and babies are not delivered. they are born.

i am going to make it my mission in life to update birth terminology. it is so horribly negative and archaic. i may need phd funding.

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HaveYouTakenLeaveOfYourCervix · 09/02/2012 08:20

for example:

how would you feel after having contractions for 2 days you were tld your had 'false labour'?

followed by 'failure to progress'.

what about 'confinement'? should we still use that instead of birth?

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SydSaid · 09/02/2012 08:22

It's obvious you are not a midwife. They do a lot more than 'catch' the baby. YABU. And persistent!

HaveYouTakenLeaveOfYourCervix · 09/02/2012 08:24
Grin
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lottiegb · 09/02/2012 08:25

Labour and birth are not verbs (labour can be but not in this context), so no. 'Go through labour' and 'give birth' yes.

ChunkyPickle · 09/02/2012 08:25

Surely I do the posting when I put it into the postbox - postmen then deliver the post to me..

confinement still happens in lots of places - a malaysian lady I knew stayed in for 4 weeks (should have been 6!) after having her baby.

Personally I don't see an issue with failure to progress (which I did), or a false labour - but then I work in a profession where being literal and precise is important so I know I think differently to many people who would attach feelings to those words

HaveYouTakenLeaveOfYourCervix · 09/02/2012 08:27

hmmmmm

'the negative connotations of language and the effect it has on a woman'sbirth experience'.

i'm telling you, this could change the world

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LaVitaBellissima · 09/02/2012 08:30

Grin at not a midwife, of course she's midwife!

Can you also stop them calling anyone over 30 an elderly primagravida or whatever offensive term they use. I'm young Wink

HaveYouTakenLeaveOfYourCervix · 09/02/2012 08:32

you are a geriatric and i am a hairy handed trucker.

i shall add it to my list of negativeness.

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chrisrobin · 09/02/2012 08:47

One of the midwives on the postnatal ward told me that my son was 'delivered' not born because it was an EmCS and he hadn't passed through the birth canal therefore couldn't be 'born', she even wrote date of delivery rather than date of birth on the paperwork. I was so upset about the whole thing but believed her until my second EmCS when I mentioned it to a different midwife that she said it was ridiculous. I was so screwed up about my first section and it really make things much worse, in my head my poor son couldn't even claim to have a birthdate and it was all my fault.

vezzie · 09/02/2012 08:49

I find "birthing" babies a bit weird, don't like it
also don't like it when people say "my birth" when they mean the birth of their baby. It honestly takes me a minute to work out what they are on about after thinking, "I am astonished you know so much about it and are still so affected by it when it was 35 years ago".

Whatmeworry · 09/02/2012 08:58

Whatever is wrong with:

Babies are born

Women give birth.

Midwives help.

(I do like the idea of the midwives catching the babies that come flying out from all those women who practice shooting ping pong balls )

HaveYouTakenLeaveOfYourCervix · 09/02/2012 09:05

midwives facilitate and assist in pregnancy, labour, birth and post-natal and are experts in normality.

it doesn't roll off the tongue as easily as catch though.

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BenedictsCumberbitch · 09/02/2012 09:12

Thing is in a normal birth catch is literally all the midwife does. In fact. If everything was always straightforward a monkey could do my job at that point Grin

HaveYouTakenLeaveOfYourCervix · 09/02/2012 09:13

support, understand, monitor, assess, ecourage, educate. then cach.

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