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Original poster

to think when I hear Cameron saying he loves the NHS..................

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ssd · 08/02/2012 22:57

he's had BUPA all his life, his family has BUPA, his friends probably all have it too

how patronising is this man

dh said, didnt his wife have the baby in an nhs hospital?, makes no difference, thats the last time she probably went near the NHS

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HaveYouTakenLeaveOfYourCervix · 08/02/2012 22:58

he is talking bollocks and is an out and out liar.

featherbag · 08/02/2012 23:01

I'd better hide this thread, I get all shouty and sweary when I see Cameron and the NHS in the same sentence...

EauDeLaPoisson · 08/02/2012 23:03

Yep he loves it so much he wants to annihilate it.....

edam · 08/02/2012 23:03

Sadly a lot of people fell for his 'we aren't the nasty party any more, I love the NHS' guff because they knew about Ivan, his son who had profound disabilities. People thought that experience might give Cameron some understanding of the NHS and some empathy with people who rely on health services and social care. From his policies and behaviour in office, clearly this is not in fact the case.

The health bill is about breaking the NHS up and privatizing it. The contract to run so-called 'GP commissioning' in London has already been given to McKinsey's. They are already going ahead and implementing the health bill even though it's not yet legal. They are already abolishing PCTs and creating 'clusters'. (GP commissioning would quite possibly be a good thing, but that's not what the bill is about - it's just spin. In fact they are just creating another tier of bureacracy, led by the same people who ran the old Strategic Health Authorities. GP commissioning groups will have to Do What They Are Told same as PCTs did.

BadDayAtTheOrifice · 08/02/2012 23:06

I feel like he hates every single fucker who works for the NHS and wants to drive them all into the ground by working them to death. And don't get me started his lies about midwives. Angry

StealthPolarBear · 08/02/2012 23:07

If you love somebody, privatise them

Walkinginwonderland · 08/02/2012 23:07

I can't even

southeastastra · 08/02/2012 23:09

i doubt dave's family had or ever will have Bupa far too common, the upper classes all have independent private consultants surely

they don't bother with gps Grin

troisgarcons · 08/02/2012 23:12

NHS was invented to save lives, not do IVF, tit implants, liposuction, etc etc - I think he knows how the NHS should works.

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ssd · 08/02/2012 23:16

the NHS does save lives numpty

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featherbag · 08/02/2012 23:17

Maybe, Trois, but he hasn't got a fucking clue how to make it work the way it should and won't listen when we try to tell him where he's going wrong the arrogant prick

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auntmargaret · 08/02/2012 23:23

He is a liar. When he was in opposition, and being all approachable and cuddly, I happened to mention to my Dsis that he might be quite a decent guy. She said it was all an act, not to trust him, and he was a liar. She said it every time he was on tv. She was right. Don't often use this word, cunt, but it was made for him and his.

BadDayAtTheOrifice · 08/02/2012 23:39

Don't call him a cunt! He lacks the warmth and depth....

Tortington · 08/02/2012 23:39

indeed

hes a fucking arsehole - full of shit

MidnightWorry · 09/02/2012 01:53

he makes my foot itch! ;)

MrsTerryPratchett · 09/02/2012 03:07

BadDay so very true. I live in Canada where they think they have something like the NHS. They don't, it is just better than America. Please don't let him ruin the NHS, the alternative is awful.

ChickenLickn · 09/02/2012 05:39

David Cameron loves the NHS so much, he wants to cut it into little pieces and give it to all of his friends.

patsdeadfrank · 09/02/2012 09:21

i arghhhhhhh grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr frubeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee there are no words.

JaneMare · 09/02/2012 09:23

DC loves the NHS so much he wants to own it....

Agincourt · 09/02/2012 09:28

yes well he also said he would the parents of severely disabled children too but my care package has been cut, I have been really ill now for 4 weeks and now I have really hurt my shoulder and I am wondering how the hell I am going to cope with caring for a challenging teenager with severe physical and learning disabilities with only 3 hours respite a week

at least i can hold my head high though and say i never fell for any of it and never voted for them

imogengladheart · 09/02/2012 09:28

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Chandon · 09/02/2012 09:29

but isn't it great that if people can afford private, they go private and don't use up NHS time and money????

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ssd · 09/02/2012 19:24

yeah its great for them, but they should leave it there and not try to ruin reform it when they become prime minister

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Averyyounggrandmaofsix · 09/02/2012 20:46

imogengladheart - I can honestly say I have never been as disappointed in any man as I am in Nick Clegg! And as for Cameron, are me and my sis the only ones who can see the target on his rather large forehead!

edam · 09/02/2012 21:19

chandon, apart from the whole social contract thing, what the government is doing is allowing hospitals to make half their money from private patients - so potentially half the beds, half the operating theatre time, half the doctors' time etc. etc. can be taken up by private patients. That is NOT good for NHS patients, who will be at the back of the queue - and waiting times are already increasing since the Tories got back in.

Last time we had the Tories people often had to wait more than 18 months for surgery - including heart surgery, FFS. It was rationing by 'if you manage to survive for 18 months, the NHS might get round to treating you'. We are fast going back to those days. Which is not only inhumane, but hugely inefficient and wasteful. E.g. some types of surgery that need to be done within three months for the best chance of success were delayed up to a year - by which time there was very little fucking point in doing it at all.

A heart surgeon I interviewed at the time said, in despair, that it would be fairer and more efficient just to say, right, we'll treat everyone whose surname begins A-K - because at least then SOME people would have a chance of staying alive, instead of almost no-one.

It is hugely expensive to waste surgical time like that, to have people long-term sick and dying instead of better and back to work and paying taxes... but that doesn't matter to George Osborne or David Cameron and it didn't matter to their predecessors in the Major government, either.